You are allowed flavor

https://lemmy.world/post/42639734

TBH, onion sandwich is delicious. Never tried with cheese tho

(Just sliced onion and a lil bit of oil (I use soy oil because it’s what we use, and it’s cheap here, but I guess olive oil may work) in a baguette. You can add a pinch of salt or pepper if you want)

Did you miss the part where Churchill is dead?!
He’s burning in hell. I’m savoring a delicious onion sandwich in celebration. What could be better?

American here. Why is Churchill burning in hell? He lead your country through WWII and D-Day.

…wait. Are you a nazi supporter?

Probably referencing this, and similar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943
Bengal famine of 1943 - Wikipedia

Churchill had little to do with it, other than not having enough shipping and having to prioritise feeding troops who were fighting Nazis at the time.

Also…

The provincial government never formally declared a state of famine, and its humanitarian aid was ineffective through the worst months of the crisis. It attempted to fix the price of rice paddy through price controls which resulted in a black market which encouraged sellers to withhold stocks, leading to hyperinflation from speculation and hoarding after controls were abandoned. Aid increased significantly when the British Indian Army took control of funding in October 1943

other than not having enough shipping and having to prioritise feeding troops

That is a choice he made, not something that just happened, and it resulted in at least a million (likely much more) civilian deaths in their own territory.

The provincial government

Gee, I wonder who put the provincial government in charge in a British colony? 🙄

And why did he make that choice?
Athens 1944: Britain’s dirty secret

When 28 civilians were killed in Athens, it wasn’t the Nazis who were to blame, it was the British. Ed Vulliamy and Helena Smith reveal how Churchill’s shameful decision to turn on the partisans who had fought on our side in the war sowed the seeds for the rise of the far right in Greece today

The Guardian
Oh, are we gonna get into a pissing contest about which system of government has killed more people?

No, I was literally just wondering if you had an explanation for it.

People were asking why Churchill was bad. This is a bad thing he did. So unless there is some hidden justification for it, if seems pretty pertinent

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, until the enemy is defeated.

There was no way Churchill was going to allow a Soviet base there. It would have been a massive risk to shipping channels and defence.

Did you even read the article?

Fuck you for defending this shit. You can’t even say that the guy did a fucked up thing? Really?

Do you know what Stalin did with all the war heroes when they got back from war? Killed the fucking lot because he was scared they’d revolt.

Churchill’s actions no doubt had negative effects, but the net effect was good.

I don’t care what Stalin did, I’m talking about Churchill and his brutal massacre of the Greek Partisans that had literally just played a pivotal role in defeating the Nazis on the isles.

They were not a threat to Britain at all. They were allies, they were part of the allied forces as well as literal allies in battle, but “communism bad” so gotta gun them down in the streets.

Churchill didn’t massacre anyone you plank. It was the Greek police. Read your own fucking source.

And yes, communism is bad, it’s failed in every single country that’s tried it with 10s of millions of deaths.

As Churchill said, Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others

Lol you’re right, he didn’t personally pull the trigger so it doesn’t count. Similarly, Stalin only actually put pen to paper so he didn’t kill anyone. Give me a break.

Bootlicker. I’m not even a communist, but I can admit that massacring the people who literally just defeated the Nazis for you (by opening fire on them in public with women and children present) is a really fucking shitty thing to do. And, just a side note, since apparently it matters to you, the Soviets were literally our allies at that time. Dude couldn’t even wait until the war was over to start slaughtering communists.

If you really can’t admit that this was a fucked up thing to do, then you’re a piece of shit. Simple as that.

Lol you’re right, he didn’t personally pull the trigger so it doesn’t count.

Did you even read the source you provided? The Athens police shot the protestors.

Bootlicker

When you resort to ad hominems, you have lost the debate.

You realise that communism had been going on for quite a while by then, and was clearly authoritarian

Go learn some history

You keep talking to me like I’m defending communism. We’re not talking about that. I am not a communist.

I’m convinced that you didn’t read the article past maybe the first paragraph if you truly believe that the Athens police are responsible for the massacre. But sure buddy, whatever you need to tell yourself.

You are a bootlicker, plain and simple. Don’t care that its ad hominem. You clearly are incapable of criticizing someone with a such a dirty past as Winston Churchill, and I can’t for the life of me figure out why. You don’t have to fucking forsake your homeland or become a goddamn communist to say “yeah, maybe he shouldn’t have done that”.

But no, you’re just a gross human being.

It’s like playing chess with a pigeon. You don’t understand anything about geopolitics or history. You present an opinion piece from the guardian as some proof of something

You have a lot to learn.

Yeah, that’s not an opinion piece.

Again, lol, from your source. Try reading it yourself!

Then last month, a leading historian quoted in the piece, André Gerolymatos, held a conference in British Columbia on the issue, inviting one of the co-authors of the piece and some of the academics who had protested to the paper. When it was over, he sent me his analysis, based, he said, on British and American archival sources as well as memoirs and secondary accounts.

He wrote: “Did the British open fire on the demonstrators on 3 December 1944? The answer is no

I’m honestly not sure if you’re just incapable of reading, but that’s not what I posted. It’s not even the same URL you fucking dolt.

YOU are posting an opinion piece that was written in response to the well researched article written by Ed Vulliamy and Helena Smith.

They put a link the the opinion response piece you’re referring to in that article out of journalistic integrity.

So either you’re purposely attempting to conflate the two articles and make the well researched, historically accurate article that I posted out to be some bullshit opinion piece, or you literally cannot read.

So please, I beg of you. READ THE ARTICLE THAT I POSTED YOU FUCKING COWARD.

JFC🙂‍↕️🤦‍♂️. Get a grip mate. Your article is not a piece of peer reviewed history. It was rebutted by greek historians, why would they support a British pov? Are you actually retarded?
Yes. I am.
It’s kind of disrespectful that you’re not only being incredibly patronizing, but you clearly have not even read the article.
I prefer to read history facts, not feels.
And yet you STILL haven’t read the article I posted. Curious.
I’ve read the rebuttal by the SEVEN greek historians. Have you?

Lol “I found a rebuttal, thank God, so that means I can safely ignore everything in the article!”

Maybe they’re not siding with the British story of events, but the anti communist story of events.

After all, that’s the most important thing here as you yourself have shown.

If doesn’t fucking change the fact that you bent over backwards to defend Churchill before even reading the criticism.

Then, instead of doing any kind of valuable introspection, you searched for anything from anyone else who might say something that contradicts it .

You don’t post those contradictions, but you make sure to tell people that you found SEVEN and that means you win!

Maybe you should read something other than one article to understand the situation?

Greece was a conquered country. They were told to disarm, they didn’t, understandably, so they got a few strafings from the air, understandably.

Your position is ridiculous. You are criticising one of the few countries that bankrupted itself defeating fascism. Grow the fuck up