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The American people are going to have to become a mob to get any justice at all. It wont be good justice, or fair, or kind, or accurate, but itâs sad that even as terrible as it would be, itâs the only justice this system is capable of.
30% of America is fine with raping children.
No. We are not. And this doesnât even play to the worst of the MAGA base: Trump brought this on himself by projecting pedophilia and pedophiles in power as something that, if elected, he was going to uncover.
In other, simpler words, decent folk everywhere are ALL upset about it, including those who voted for the pedo-in-chief.
What you just said wasnât anti-American, though Iâm sure you think it works that way. Itâs really just anti-decency, in the exact same way Trumpâs own slurs tend to be. âTheyâre eating the dogs.â âAmericans are fine with raping children.â
See how that works? Itâs the exact same noise, to the exact same end.
And to prove it further you encourage mobs. We donât need mobs. We have Minneapolis and Minnesota beating ICE back every day, with a courage that you canât even credit, in a way that has brought the worldâs attention to the extreme wrongs being done there.
Look more closely at the Epstein files â it is the community you are fouling with your propaganda, after all â and notice what the Epstein files all have in common: the rich and powerful, across every border. This particular thread is highlighting Sultan Bin Sulayem, but youâre skipping right over that to whine about what Americans arenât doing for you and trot out the exact same kind of nationalist slur you claim to be against.
Pick a side, but youâre not against the Epstein class: you sound exactly like them.
But thatâs not what you claimed.
30% of America is fine with raping children.
Your words, not mine.
Pedophilia was not on the ballot, so votes alone donât prove your claim. But you go ahead. Any source.
Do it for the survivors who are also reading your vile claim. Or maybe you think Haley Robson is also fine with raping children, since she is both a Trump voter and an Epstein survivor, and sheâs not alone. Or maybe MTG, who is in fact a screaming howler monkey as well as a sexual assault survivor, but without whom none of us would now be seeing any of these files. And so forth. The list is long.
Go ahead. Prove your â30% of America is fine with raping children.â
Aussiemandeus30 percent are fine with a president who does
DandomRudeIt is, of course, absolutely true that the vast majority of US citizens are decent people. However, they are represented by an unscrupulous criminal regime whose misdeeds do not even stop at protecting the obviously numerous child abusers in the ranks of the mafia-like organization that constitutes the administration - far from it.
You have to understand that the world is furious and also holds US citizens responsible, because after all, it is their elected representatives who are obviously guilty of the most heinous crimes and get away with all of this completely unpunished, even though it is perfectly obvious what monsters they are.
This is attributable to the frustration that it is not only US citizens who suffer from the criminal syndicate that the US regime represents and which, in the person of the orange rapist at its head, even openly displays itâs disgusting grimace of absolute malice these days. The fact is that other countries also suffer from their crimes. However, people in other countries can do nothing about it except turn away from the US in disgust.
It is, of course, sad how unreflective this sometimes is, but it is simply the logical consequence of the actions of the US regime.
I fear that as long as decent people in the US do not organize themselves and finally hold the criminals at the top of their system accountable, US citizens will have to accept the accusation that they are allowing the most heinous of all crimes to happen.
If they do not act themselves, it will always continue this way, because the Eppstein case shows that neither politicians, nor the legal system, nor law enforcement agencies can be expected to hold those responsible to account - on the contrary: the entire system is obviously so infiltrated that it serves unscrupulous criminals rather than citizens.
This should be clear to everyone by now - and that is what comments like the one above are aiming at: for the rest of the world, at least the democratic part, it is simply incomprehensible that more than 300 million Americans are apparently unable to finally rise up against the tyranny of the so-called US elite, who are actually the exact opposite: they are the scum of the US population, who have attained positions of power through a system that depends on greed, unscrupulousness, and inhuman selfishness for success.
It is really time to put a stop to these people and fundamentally dismantle the system they have created to enable their crimes in the first place.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply; I donât disagree with anything you wrote. But throwing out obviously slanderous falsehoods about â30% of Americans are fine with raping childrenâ isnât the winning posture some apparently think it is. They seem to think all that is know today was known in November 2024, and it was not, especially not to his followers.
I have added in another comment how sexual assault survivors crossed the aisle to pass EFTA, without which no one would be seeing the files now. Some of Epsteinâs survivors are themselves Trump voters: they voted for him because they believed the lies he would do something about it. To assert that they too are âfine with raping childrenâ as children that were raped themselves is dishonorable and beyond revolting, but even when pointed out there are folks still saying it, like doubling down on it will make it more defensible.
And to do so in a community that is built around discussing real crimes against real people, some of whom are here, and for whom there is already a trigger warning in the sidebar, is conscienceless and vile.
Someone else here asked me what I was defending, as though all this comes down to an election choice based on todayâs wisdom for yesterdayâs ballot and thatâs all that should matter to me. I answered them.
Perhaps that reply will help you understand better as well.
To be clear, I donât give a shit who voted for or against Trump at this point. Heâs there. Iâm doing my part (in ways I will not discuss online) and I assume others are as well. Thatâs not for anyone else to question, especially if theyâre not even here. In the meantime, do not take real survivorsâ pain and torment and use it as a dishonest label and emotive cudgel with which to make cheap ass political points out of a suffering non-survivors cannot possibly understand. That is reprehensible, regardless of where you or anyone else stands on the political spectrum.
Yes, I agree with you: inaccurate generalizations donât help anyone, and insults even less so - quite the contrary. Thatâs exactly the kind of mindless nonsense that has helped demagogues like Drump succeed. It only serves to distract attention from the real culprits.
The only thing I wanted to say with my comment is that I can halfway understand why people are frustrated and allow themselves to be led to make such bogus statements. I think youâre absolutely right that it makes much more sense to look forward rather than backward, to put an end to political infighting and to join forces to fight the real enemies, because they are essentially the ones who benefit from discord - itâs their strategy.
The GOPâs approach is a good example of this: since the Tea Party movement under Sarah Palin and then MAGA, this party has developed into an anti-democratic juggernaut: instead of discussion and compromise, it now insists solely on its inhumane hardliner positions, slander, disinformation, etc. - not talking to each other rationally, but merely spreading hatred and hostility.
Unfortunately, this model has also been adopted by right-wing extremist parties in my home country, and they too are unfortunately very successful with it.
Democracy simply cannot function this way, because it requires the exchange of rational arguments and a willingness to cooperate for the benefit of all. With hatred and slander, on the other hand, it is impossible to shape democratic processes for the good of all.
Therefore, baseless accusations and insults are extremely counterproductive.
It is much worse than that. It is a direct form of horizontal hostility, and specifically designed to prevent people from confronting the real enemy:
Horizontal Hostility. Having failed to ďŹght against those in power, people take out their anger and frustrations on each other. It is a lot easier to ďŹght the person sitting next to you than someone in a distant house of parliament or corporate headquarters. And if victory continues to elude them, itâs because their would-be allies are reactionaries, or vanguardists, or dangerous anarchists and vandals. People who are willing to ďŹght back often have more ďŹery and combative personalities, so such conďŹict is easy to provoke.
The term âhorizontal hostilityâ was coined by Black intersectionalist feminist and civil rights organizer Florynce Kennedy; she called it âmisdirected anger that rightly should be focused on the external causes of oppression.â
Ann Hansen explained to me that this phenomenon is so destructive that intelligence agencies âlike CSIS and the RCMP donât have to spend one cent in our communities, because people spend all their time attacking each other over the little things instead of talking about strategy.â
Michael Albert, writing about what happens to people who encounter a movement for the ďŹrst time, asks: âDoes this person merge into a growing community of people, feel more secure and appreciated, feel a growing sense of personal worth and of contribution to something valuable, and enjoy a sense of accomplishment? . . . Or does this person meet a lot of other people who continually question her motives and behavior, making her feel insecure and constantly criticized?â
From Full Spectrum Resistance: Building Movements and Fighting to Win, page 57, by Aric McBay, available in full on archive.org
So even though I deeply appreciate your position for myself, while you are busy lending these folks your gentle understanding, I will offer my congratulations on the own-goal to all the people taking cheap and dishonest shots at Americans who care enough to address it and fix it, survivors included, because weâre the only ones who can.
Trump is a child rapist. He was elected twice to the presidency. His current approval rating is 42%, after everything heâs done. How do you reconcile his continued support despite his child raping, if not as approval of his actions? He raped children and Americans still support him as president, 42% of Americans. That looks to me like 42% of Americans are fine with child rape.
Where is your evidence that shows more than 70% of Americans disapprove of a child raping president?