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Obsidian's The Outer Worlds 2 Underperformed, and There Won't Be a Third - IGN

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Obsidian's The Outer Worlds 2 Underperformed, and There Won't Be a Third - IGN

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Feb 4 at 5:07amWeb
Show threadMyDarkestTimeline01Feb 4
Havenā€™t they lost almost all of the staff involved with the good games? At this point theyā€™re in the same boat as BioWare. All the old guard is gone.
Show threadFippleStoneFeb 4
I think Josh Sawyer is still there, he most recently headed up 2022ā€™s Pentiment, couldnā€™t say about anyone else though
Show threadstoyFeb 4

It underperformed due to them overcharging for it.

I had my sights set on buying it shortly after launch, then they decided to charge ā‚¬80 for it on launch, and still charge ā‚¬70 for it.

I would be fine with ā‚¬60, but more is just greedy.

And yes I noticed way too late that they had it on sale for ā‚¬50 this december, and I missed that opportunity due to other expenses.

Show threadWarl0k3Feb 4
Itā€™s a great game imho, but I was gifted my copy - in no world is any game worth ā‚¬80, this one included, itā€™s completely divorced from reality to charge that much. Fucking tragic the publisher just killed it on delivery.
Show threadstoyFeb 4

Yeah, the price for new games had been fixed for a long time at ā‚¬50, and then the industry decided to whack it up to ā‚¬70 just as the cost of living reached even higher.

And now they are standing around scratching their heads asking why their games failedā€¦

Now, I realize that the cost of living also affects companies and their staff, but come on, you donā€™t whack the price up by 40% in one go, you start earlier and raise it by 10-20%, let it stabilize and go from there.

That is more in line with the inflation rate.

Show threadKirp123Feb 4
I feel that the game would have been fine if it was an actually game worth playing. The first game already was kinda meh and I donā€™t even know who demanded a sequel. Nobody is going to pay 80 Euro for a mediocre game when they could get a bunch of indie games with that money.
Show threadstoyFeb 4
I really enjoyed the first one, and am looking forward to the second, but first it needs to get a better price, and preferably get on GOG.
Show threadDamageFeb 4
Aside from it being a high price for any game, the first game also was very meh, you canā€™t expect lots of sales from its fans
Show threadP00ptartFeb 4
The first one felt very forced as far as the leftist story goes. Iā€™m as leftist as there is but it still felt really heavy handed. I got maybe 3 hours in and never picked it up again.
Show threadSoggyFeb 4
It was a pretty standard anti-corporate satire that would not have stood out against films like Brazil or Joe vs the Volcano.
Show threadP00ptartFeb 4
Fallout is anti-corporate. But youā€™re dealing with the aftermath of runaway capitalism, instead of being inside of it. Whereas the outer worlds felt like a too long episode of Futurama featuring mom corp.
Show threadMister_FeenyFeb 4

They actually walked back the 80 to 70 BEFORE launch, but the bad press about it stuck anyway.

I skipped it myself cuz even though I generally like Obsidian games, I don't spend money on microsoft anymore.

Show threadProve_your_argumentFeb 4

I basically refuse to pay more than $50 for a game.

The outer wilds had some good press but by the time I was interested it was given away for free. Guessing thatā€™ll be the case here too.

Show threadtiredofsametabFeb 4

There were unpatched issues in the first one (it's been so long now I don't remember them all but there was one in a DLC where you're supposed to be able to give an item to a robot NPC but it was just broken in addition to several others).

Looking at the price and thinking of that, it was a "pass until decent sale" for me.

I do like the setting generally (at least based on the first one). It might be neat to have someone else take over the IP and go somewhere with it.

Show threadP00ptartFeb 4
They were a little too heavy handed on the preachyness imo. I agree with the point but that doesnā€™t mean I want to be hit with a metaphorical hammer for 20+ hours.
Show threadAlchemyFeb 4
Shame. I really enjoyed playing this on gamepass. It wasnā€™t amazing but I completed it which is rare these days.
Show threadCosmoNovaFeb 4
I didnā€˜t like the first one so this was a hard pass for me. However I didnā€˜t even know the sequel was out yet. This thing completely drowned among better priced indie games.
Show threadTheFeatureCreatureFeb 4
No way in hell Iā€™d pay its nearly $100CAD asking price.
Show threadsad_detective_manFeb 4
For how phoned in the story was and how badly it runs in UE5 itā€™s kind of insane that they charged above $50
Show threadchewablesFeb 4

I ended up pirating it because the price was just out of the question for me at the time I found out it was released. Which was purely by chance

Overall it was an okay experience but I didnā€™t like the cast as much as the original, had to download some mods for my first playthrough (not something I usually do) to fix some things I found annoying, and was just kinda bored. If Iā€™d had anything else to do I probably wouldnā€™t have finished it, and I donā€™t see myself going back for a second playthrough. Indie games just seem to be doing everything better rn

Show threadAcidbathFeb 4
Is the second game really ā€œmehā€? I enjoyed the first one but that was because I got stupidly high everytime I play. There has been moments where I would sober up and question why everyone in a town hates me and why is everyone dead. Donā€™t remember the details either, epic games corrupted my save and I gave up.
Show threadP00ptartFeb 4
The first was meh. Dunno about the second, but I have to assume it was also meh.
Show threadiegodFeb 4
Yeah the first was alright, like a small scale Bethesda game with pretty ok gunplay. I got my copy for free (thanks epic) but it still wasnā€™t enough to interest me to buy the second.
Show threadP00ptartFeb 5

Well they definitely learned a lot from Bethesda. Maybe too much. But they also outperform Bethesda in a lot of ways. Like using unreal, it just allows way more realistic facial movements than any Bethesda game allows, making NPCs feel far more realistic, and therefore allowing better immersion. But Bethesda absolutely needs to start from scratch with a new engine if they want to continue using their own. With an updated engine it could pump out games much faster than trying to continuously upgrade the old ass engine to look better. Itā€™s seriously out of date when facial movements still are only confined to the mouth like their newest game, starfield. Like games back in the day would use the same engine and get a new one out 2-3 years later. Why canā€™t we do that again?

I just want more content, if you put out a game I love, I donā€™t need the most advanced version of it, just give me another with a new story on the same engine. It worked great with old grand theft Auto games. I totally understand why it wouldnā€™t work like call of duty, because they put almost no effort in the story. But cutting down on on the effort of the engine, and focusing on story, would be fine. Their biggest anchor is the engine.

Show threadYarnyFeb 4

Didnā€™t mind the first one, but you are out of your mind if you think I would pay $70 for this game. Especially after they tried to sell it for $80 at first. Thank god that didnā€™t fly. Fuck you Microsoft.

Itā€™s crazy too, because most games that launch for $70, you can just wait 3 months and then theyā€™ll have a 30% sale. I will be picking it up this March, should go on sale for like 40%.

Show threadthingsiplayFeb 4
On Steam store.steampowered.com/app/ā€¦/The_Outer_Worlds_2/ the lowest price it had was 2 month ago (approx. 1 year after release on Steam I think) at 30% cut, which is 49 Euros down from 70. So it might take another 6 or even 12 months before going lower than that.
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Show threadYarnyFeb 4
The Outer Worlds 2 came out October 29th, 2025 (not even 4 months ago). So for it to already be at 30% gives me hope that itā€™ll go down much more next sale. Iā€™m assuming it didnā€™t sell that well on steam just looking at number of reviews and all time player count peak.
Show threadthingsiplayFeb 4
Oops my bad. I thought its already a year agoā€¦ lol time does not fly!
Show threadCallMeAnAIFeb 4
The first one was mostly terrible and coasted on, 'not Bethesda ā€™ and fallout vibes. But it was shallow and janky.
Show threadGladaedFeb 4
Shallow and janky is peak fallout.
Show threadCoelacanthFeb 4
Iā€™m afraid youā€™re conflating ā€œFalloutā€ with ā€œBethesdaā€. Fallout 1&2 are peak Fallout, and they are neither shallow nor janky. Well, maybe slightly janky but more in the sense of ā€œdatedā€ than Bethesda type jank.
Show threadšŸ‡° šŸŒ€ šŸ‡± šŸ‡¦ šŸ‡³ šŸ‡¦ šŸ‡° šŸ‡® Feb 4

I remember getting it because the hype around it being better at RPG storytelling than Fallout 4 which was still new was the number one thing I heard about it.

While it is better written, Iā€™ll give it that, it very much suffers from the same lack of interesting choices that Fallout 4 has. You have rebel, capitalist, and maybe sometimes a neutral 3rd option. Having two of those three choices just make one side happy and the other mad at you isnā€™t exactly the kind of depth I was hoping for.

And the action is pretty mid at best, while Fallout 4 I have pretty much always thought of as a pretty damn good looter shooter where it fails at being a halfway decent RPG.

Show threadRainbowBliteFeb 4
I much prefer their isometric titles anyway.
Show threadGreen WizardFeb 4
God man, shits so sad but Iā€™d be lying if I said I was surprised at all. The first one was very OK, like it was certainly a game that I played and bothered completing. They were very lucky someone had the idea to make Parvati in the first game, the rest of the crew was a snooze fest (at least for me). But then I see the shitty commercial they made for the companions in the 2nd game, and no fucking wonder it didnā€™t sell! They tell you nothing, play that god awful song over some shitty footage and crack a joke about how none of them are romance-able. They then charge 80 bucks, and make fun of you if you pay for their premium edition, yea go fuck yourself obsidian, and stop taking credit for new Vegas, none of those team members are still around.
Show threadSoloCriticalFeb 4
This is an accurate take haha.
Show threadVerilyFemmeFeb 4

Might just be me butā€¦ I really like the companions in the Outer Worlds 2. Theyā€™re way better than the first game. The inability to romance them was actually a selling point to me, because I assumed that meant each characterā€™s arc would focus on their own story unrelated to their relationship with the player, like in New Vegas.

So far, Iā€™ve loved how Inez especially expands on the history of Auntieā€™s Choice. Thereā€™s one companion thatā€™s just a little goofy, but I also donā€™t know how youā€™d do that character without making them extremely naive.

The game as a whole actually is much more fleshed-out than the first, at least thus far (halfway through). I highly recommend getting it on a sale.

Show threadBigBananaDealerFeb 5
dude parvarti was like 95% of the reason i kept playing outer worlds 1 until the end šŸ˜‚
Show threadAlexanderTheDeadFeb 5
Iā€™m not sure which of you is right, but another comment below said JSawyer is still at Obsidian. Thatā€™s the name for me, and probably for a lot of people.
Show threadGreen WizardFeb 5
Iā€™ll be real, I did not know he still worked there, thatā€™s what I get for saying things without looking it up. That being said, according to Wikipedia, he didnā€™t have a hand in OW1, Avowed, or OW2. Why brag about having JSawyer if he isnā€™t even working on it you know?
Show threadAlexanderTheDeadFeb 5

Yeah, I get you. I havenā€™t played OW2 but Avowed is soā€¦ not fun, for me. Iā€™ll give it another shot someday.

OW1 tho was okay I thought. Not good enough to motivate me to play the DLCs I had already paid for, lol.

Show threadBigBananaDealerFeb 6

i found avowed the best out of the 3 (ow1 and ow2)

try using pistols cause theyre fuckin broken lol

Show threadAlexanderTheDeadFeb 6
Idk itā€™s not the combat, I just didnā€™t find myself able to engage in the world? Maybe if I played pillars?
Show threadKatana314Feb 4
Call this what you like. Echo effect (previous entry was bad, and so people avoid the very good sequel), $70 price tagā€¦in my case, it was Microsoft nosediving harder than usual on all fronts, including literally bombing children, making it an easy decision to boycott them.
Show threadCannedCairnFeb 4
This reminds me to finish the outer wilds.
Show threadkalpolFeb 4
You gotta finish. The ending sticks with you a while
Show threadanamethatisntFeb 4
Iā€™m waiting for the game to be released on gog.com. I really enjoyed the first game.
Show threadzebidiahFeb 4
Not shocked. this seems like, at best, it might be a $10 steam pickupā€¦ Same as the first game
Show threadfyrilsolFeb 4

I got the first Outer Worlds for free...on Epic.

The sequel will probably also be given away for free at somepoint.

Show threadTalkingFlowerFeb 4
For some reason, I just felt the humour was trying too hard, plus the price tag made the overall package unappealing to me.
Show threadPasserby6497Feb 4

Honestly, the first one was Ok, Iā€™m kinda surprised there was a second one.

Ok, not really surprised,since every IP needs to be a franchise, but you know what I mean.

Show threadzod000Feb 4
Your extremely expensive try-hard sequel to a just OK game didnā€™t blow everyone away? Womp womp. Obsidian died when MS bought them.
Show threadcommanderFeb 4

Outer Worlds 2, Avowed, Mass Effect Andromeda, Dragon Age Veilguard - each one of these games were touted for their improved combat, at least improved movement. Thatā€™s not to say any are great, just that theyā€™re not as clunky as previous games. They are not standout in that regard. So for Bioware and Obsidian, it is still the case that their draw is writing in a higher budget RPG than the startup indie scene. Pretty much where Owlcat is now getting to with Warhammer and the Expanse licensed games, thatā€™s where Bioware and Obsidian were 20-25 years ago. Narrative games

Bioware and Obsidian games arenā€™t so fun to play to appeal with mediocre writing. I think like an 80+% reduction of irony, snark, sarcasm, eye rolls, modern slang, knods to modern culture would do wonders for their games writing. Donā€™t have to get rid of all of it. Just have them be more fun finds in a dialog tree while the rest of the narrative takes itself seriously

Show threadDevmapallFeb 4

I couldnā€™t get into veil guard. The combat was pretty good and it looks pretty. The characters were annoying and seemedā€¦ Type cast? All their dialogue seemed corny. Maybe they get better throughout the story but the story also didnā€™t grab me.

I played all the others and the mass effect series multiple times. I even enjoyed Andromeda for what it was (though I quit at the final mission save for some reason).

Show threadcommanderFeb 4

My guess on Veilguard is that after the original creator left, now it was up to remaining writers to maintain passion in lore that they didnā€™t formulate. So Veilguard, it all gets watered down and anticlimactically rolled out and the focus ended up being relationship drama which still sucked. A Dragon Age game that wants to be Lifetime channel medieval teenage fantasy romance but the characters are all seasoned combat veteran adults so itā€™s very weird for them to behaving so childish and unprofessional or even blase about the world ending/faith shattering reveals in the story

I played DA1-3 a bunch of times. Veilguard just sucks. ME1-3 I never liked like KOTOR 1and 2 but good enough. Andromeda, itā€™s not interesting. Dropped maybe halfway through. Good gunplay and movement but overly big uninteresting worlds. I donā€™t remember what any character wanted. At least Inquisition, the different areas were visually memorable

Show threadDevmapallFeb 8

Super late response but lifetime chanel medieval teen romance sums up my the feeling I got from the game. It perfectly resonated with me.

I enjoy listening to audiobooks that are pretty much escapist power fantasyā€™s and they have more interesting worlds and characters than veil guard did.

Show threadZaraki42Feb 4
I enjoyed itā€¦ sorry.
Show threadiamthetotFeb 4
Donā€™t apologize for enjoying a game.
Show threadAlfredo_DisguidoAlCazzoFeb 4

For me it was very laggy and did not work well on my ha (2080ti + 5600x)

I couldnt hit 50FPS stable

Show threadkryptonianCodeMonkeyFeb 4
I kept getting mixed up with Outer Worlds and Outer Wilds, and got really excited then disappointed when I heard about Outer Worlds 2, thinking that Outer Wilds was getting a sequel. So it was always a bummer to me even without actually playing the game.
Show threadBlameTheAntifaFeb 4
$70 for a game is mad. Even if it was critically acclaimed and award winning who can afford that when most people struggle to live? Even $50 is a lot of money. Big game developers have lost the plot.