JännätFeb 3

Trump calls on Republicans to ‘nationalize’ future elections

https://sopuli.xyz/post/40595366

Trump calls on Republicans to ‘nationalize’ future elections - Sopuli

> “The Republicans should say, we want to take over, we should take over the voting, the voting in at least many, 15 places. The Republicans ought to nationalize the voting,” Trump told Dan Bongino, the former deputy director of the FBI, in a podcast appearance. > > […] > > On several occasions, Trump has pledged to change how the country votes, zeroing in on methods he falsely claims lead to fraudulent voting. In August, he said he was going to “lead a movement” to end mail-in ballots, and vowed to sign an executive order banning them, in addition to voting machines. He did not end up signing the order. > > The president also kicked off a rare mid-decade redistricting campaign intended to help Republicans win additional US House seats in November’s midterm elections.

Show threadwhereIsTamara

Here’s the deal: If you are American and you want to be able to vote in the future, you have one option, and it’s bloody awful.

If you choose to do nothing, you choose to not have voting rights. If me telling you this upsets you, ask yourself: am I more upset that it is the truth or that someone is telling the truth to me?

Feb 3 at 4:08pmWeb
Show threadJännätFeb 3
Pointing out that in several states the US midterms might not exactly be free and open seems to really get a lot of resistance from Americans. Many seem like they really don’t even want to think about it, and would just rather keep believing that the midterms will solve everything
Show threadwhereIsTamaraFeb 3

It’s shocking to me how many feel that way. They get MAD when I even mention the possibility of what Trump is literally saying. Many of them are on Lemmy too, which has always felt strange.

🙈🙉🙊

Show threadJännätFeb 3
Yeah, we’re getting downvoted for daring to point out in a comment that what Trump said in the post I linked to might not be great for election security
Show threadwhereIsTamaraFeb 3
Here’s an observation I’ve had. There are a large number of .world accounts with ages all within a month or two of 2.7 years. These accounts a very vocal about how they feel any kind of uprising is bad news. Just sit tight, follow the rules, let the politicians solve the problem. Don’t fight.
Show threadTropicalDingdongFeb 3
Its when the first major exodus from Reddit was, around the API restrictions. Before that Lemmy was barely fledgling, practically unpopulated.
Show threadwhereIsTamaraFeb 3

You’re joking right? In the 2024 election you think Lemmy was unpopulated?

I’m dying laughing.

Show threadTropicalDingdongFeb 3

2.7 years ago

In the 2024 election

Do I need to get the whiteboard out and work this out for you? It was the summer of 2023.

Show threadwhereIsTamaraFeb 3
Sweetie, the Election is in November.
Show threadTropicalDingdongFeb 3

Jfc, you can’t even follow your own thread.

The major influx into lemmy happened the summer of 2023, approximately 2.7 years ago. It coincided with reddit making preparations to go public, specifically, banning third party apps and making drastic changes to their API. Approximately 15 months before the 2024 election.

Show threadwhereIsTamaraFeb 3

At this point it was very clear that you are not reading anything or comprehending anything I am saying and therefore we should just stop now. I suggest maybe you go outside and take a big breath while you still have freedom to do so.

Have the day you voted for.

Show threadTropicalDingdongFeb 3
Well you are just being an idiot incapable of basic math. I’m not sure what high-horse you think that puts you on.
Show threadwhereIsTamaraFeb 3

Oh I’ve been banned probably a thousand times from various communities but not necessarily this one. Being banned doesn’t mean I’m bad. It means I’m not one of the center-right “obey the rules” lemmy users who have mod power.

You can accuse me of getting banned all you want but to me it’s a badge of honor.

Show threadTropicalDingdongFeb 3

Oh I’ve been banned probably a thousand times from various communities but not necessarily this one. Being banned doesn’t mean I’m bad. It means I’m not one of the center-right “obey the rules” lemmy users who have mod power.

I don’t disagree, and I’ve worked relentlessly to push back against that authority when it worked to suppress narratives and issues with Biden as candidate, when it worked to shut down honest discussion around how Harris was performing and what it would take for them to win. Hit @[email protected] up for specifics. I’ve never not been vocal about the importance of having an open space to discuss and argue.

Show threadwhereIsTamaraFeb 3
Jordan Lund? He’s the fucking problem. He’s right up there with that dead Squid Cunt. Let me guess, you liked both of them—that’s would explain everything.
Show threadTropicalDingdongFeb 3

God your are an idiot. I’m citing Jordan Lund as a source to make it clear I’ve been relentless in pushing back against their authority in suppressing others voices. I was also the primary voice in pushing back against Squids relentless apologetics, getting me banned from every sub they modded. Not someone else. Me. And by being consistent, and being right before it was popular, I’ve been able to move the narrative on these things. I know how many minds I’ve changed and how I was able to move a minority perspective into the majority.

I’m also not sure squid is dead. Check lemvotes: lemvotes.org/user/[email protected]

Look at the upvotes. They were upvoting things as late as December of last year.

[email protected] - Lemvotes

Get a list of votes for any post, comment or user on Lemmy

Show threadwhereIsTamaraFeb 3
We should stop arguing, I got Squid fired. 🔪🩸
Show threadTropicalDingdongFeb 3

Afaik they went dark last Feb. My thinking is that when they moved to the UK they were faced with the fact that they were a terminally online shitlib and had to come to terms with the fact that they needed to get the fuck off lemmy and get a job. But they didn’t go completely dark.

They voted on a handful of things, a couple times in May of 25 and a couple times in Dec. They still have a heartbeat afaik.

Show threadwhereIsTamaraFeb 3
That’s a disappointment. And, if Jordan knows what’s good for him he’ll stay gone.
Show threadNuXCOM_90PercentFeb 3

reddit has very minimal bot protection and a lot of systems designed to benefit those who pay to play, as it were.

Lemmy doesn’t even have that. And it is trivial to make multiple accounts across multiple instances. Whether that is to role play some nonsense or to do the old “the first two or three downdoots set the tone” trick people try to pretend isn’t a thing. And spend a bit of time shitposting/reading the timestamps and… some of them are REAL obvious.

And this is very apparent in the various political threads. LOTS of people pushing agendas (the gun nut lobby being particularly alarming). Let alone the “official” lemmy instance being blocked by most people because it is infested with lead dev sanctioned tankies who are largely indistinguishable from chuds when it comes to pushing putin et al’s policies.

Much like in the good old days: Open, minimally invasive, social media is fun (yes. IRC and Usenet were social media). It is also infested with bad actors and manipulators.

Show threadwhereIsTamaraFeb 3
Oh IRC, how I miss you. I was on the Undernet, you?
Show threadcattywampasFeb 3
Elections in this country have literally never been free and open. Voter suppression has always happened. Don’t let it discourage you from acting or make you believe that we can’t still win, because history has shown us that it isn’t true.
Show threadevenglowFeb 3

History got Trump as President. Twice. History has led to Republicans getting full control of USA.

If people had not been historically discouraged we would not be here yet again talking about Trump.

Show threadReygleFeb 3
Those here who need to be told this cannot read, or at least choose to not read anything that isn’t delivered via Faux News, “NewsMax”, OAN, etc.
It’s going to take more than rationality on a screen or a piece of paper.
Show threadNuXCOM_90PercentFeb 3

The chuds are happy for this.

The ones who really need to be told this are the ones who STILL insist that Biden would have been worse for Palestine than trump is so that is why they couldn’t vote for such an uncharismatic candidate as Kamala. They don’t support genocide, period.

And they don’t watch fox news. They watch tankie nonsense like hasan. So they feel genuinely righteous as they are either so stupid as to not realize they are pushing an accelerationist agenda or figure it will turn out good for them because they are the best socialist so they will have the most money and power after The Revolution.

And… we are REALLY fucking stupid in the US. But you EU and rest of the world folk might want to pay attention to what is going on domestically too because a lot of y’all ain’t THAT far behind us on the way to the drain.

Show threadTropicalDingdongFeb 3

The ones who really need to be told this are the ones

The ones who need to be told this are the ones who INSISTED that Biden needed to be the candidate. Its not the left that got us here: It was fucking shitty liberals who didn’t want to bother finding candidates who represent the people.

Show threadwhereIsTamaraFeb 3
The people who worked hard on Lemmy to get people not to vote for Kamala need to be taken out.
Show threadTropicalDingdongFeb 3

Jesus fucking Christ this isn’t a fucking thing.

If you wanted Harris to win, you needed Harris to change her positions. Thats it. And if you were badgering people about problems with Harris: YOU HELPED GET TRUMP ELECTED

There is no other path to stopping Trump considering how long liberals refused to acknowledge that continuing to run Biden was to effectively fold to Trump.

Show threadwhereIsTamaraFeb 3

Having been on Lemmy during the election… yes it was exactly what I saw happening. You’re just too blind and “center-right” to see it.

Good luck on those midterm elections! Buy a gun!

Show threadTropicalDingdongFeb 3

You’re just too blind and “center-right”

Look I might be many superlatives, but you should actually get to know with whom you speak before spouting off.

Show threadwhereIsTamaraFeb 3
No one cares about you.
Show threadTropicalDingdongFeb 3
Ooh! Spicy.
Show threadceenoteFeb 3
I have no problem saying the Democrats fucking suck and I’m going to vote for them down the whole ballot.
Show threadwhereIsTamaraFeb 3
Thank you for voting. I do feel your pain.
Show threadBenderRodriguezFeb 3
  • I’m upset about fascists taking our rights away. 2. I’m upset about commenters showing up and telling us we gotta do something, but offering no advice as to what to do.

    • It’s always complaining that we don’t do anything. When I ask what exactly it is that I should do, it’s some answer like, “Take care of your neighbors and help people in need”. Your comment is more of the same. What exactly do you want me to do outside of going out and killing people?

    Show threadJännätFeb 3

    I’m upset about commenters showing up and telling us we gotta do something, but offering no advice as to what to do.

    You’re upset that others won’t fix your problems?

    Show threadBenderRodriguezFeb 3
    You can’t read. If you have a suggestion as to how I can do my part to fix this, I’ll not only listen, I’ll do it.
    Show threadJännätFeb 3
    Ah, so you’re upset that others won’t tell you how to fix your problems? Vastly different, yes
    Show threadBenderRodriguezFeb 3
    You’re being asinine.
    Show threadlectricleopardFeb 3
    25% to 30% of social media is astroturf, according to studies I’ve heard. Maybe not a Russian troll, but certainly paid for by fascists. Don’t let them bother you. They hate their lives sitting in their tiny cubicle telling lies for a meager wage.
    Show threadBenderRodriguezFeb 3
    Thank you, friendly ally.
    Show threadJännätFeb 3

    “Certainly paid for by fascists”, lol.

    How dare I say that Americans should fix their own fucking problems instead of whining about how everybody is being mean and not telling them how to fix them

    Show threadJännätFeb 3
    Certainly a Russian troll for suggesting you Americans get your own shit together instead of whining that we won’t tell you how to fix things
    Show threadReallyActuallyFrankensteinFeb 3

    I wonder, do you think you’re providing value here?

    I don’t think you’re paid-for, because I’m convinced of your self-righteousness. Your condescension is too natural to be fake.

    But let me ask you: does whining about people whining make you better than them, or worse? What’s your goal?

    Show threadTropicalDingdongFeb 3

    Liberals think for a criticism to be valid, you owe them an solution to the problem you identify.

    Which is of course absurd.

    Show threadJännätFeb 3
    And I committed the cardinal sin of being a foreigner – in order to criticise the US I apparently need to be able to hand-feed them a solution to the mess they themselves created
    Show threadTaldanFeb 3
    A complaint can be both valid and unproductive at the same time
    Show threadTropicalDingdongFeb 3
    Show threadpelespiritFeb 3

    They want chaos in our streets so they can do martial law. These are tests for the midterms. We’re very fortunate to have clear examples of how it works:

    • California, some cars and robots got damaged
    • California, some people harmed, but not killed
    • Minnesota, woman was killed and peaceful protests
    • Minnesota, guy shows up with a gun, gun was taken away, he was executed.
    • Minnesota, peaceful protests continue and most of the US is against the government’s decisions

    Throughout all of this, immigrants and US citizens that are POC are being shot, separated from their families, deported, beat up and stalked (severity not in order). If we do the thing and start having chaos, they will shoot to kill many, many people. They have masks and guns. Again, most of the US hates ICE.

    Show threadcattywampasFeb 3

    Nationwide martial law is never happening in this country.

    “Martial law” is the leftist version of the Rapture. It’s never happening, and every time it doesn’t the goalposts just move to the future again.

    Show threadpelespiritFeb 3
    So what exactly are you saying? If you show up with guns to a protest, they’ll execute you. What are your other ideas?
    Show threadcattywampasFeb 3

    You said it yourself. The peaceful protests in Minnesota have continued. They had elections and voted blue, despite the city crawling with ICE and other federal agents.

    Continue protesting, calling your reps, and voting. In Minnesota they said “we will crawl over broken glass to vote against the GOP” and they put their money where their mouths were.

    And through this all they’ve given a blueprint to blue cities and states across the country

    Stop capitulating in advance because it’s the easy way out. Have some agency.

    Democrat wins Minnesota election with 95% of vote amid ICE crackdown

    The Democratic wins mean the Minnesota House of Representatives is restored to an even partisan split.

    Newsweek
    Show threadpelespiritFeb 3

    I mean, that’s what I’m saying exactly. We agree then, lol.

    You said it yourself. The peaceful protests in Minnesota have continued. They had elections and voted blue, despite the city crawling with ICE and other federal agents.

    Continue protesting, calling your reps, and voting. In Minnesota they said “we will crawl over broken glass to vote against the GOP” and they put their money where their mouths were.

    Show threadcattywampasFeb 3
    Then my apologies if I misinterpreted you. I’m just sick of doomers using “all is lost” as an excuse to sit on their asses and refuse to take any action, and as a politically active individual it really rustles my jimmies.
    Show threadpelespiritFeb 3
    Having foreign actors try and get us to bring guns and shoot ICE rustles my jimmies. They are trying to cause chaos.
    Show threadevenglowFeb 3

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    Show threadBenderRodriguezFeb 3
    Done! Thanks!
    Show threadevenglowFeb 3

    Spread the word. The only downside to a strike is not enough people striking.

    And that when USA during WWII rounded up all the Americans of Japanese descent to put them in prison they still were forced to work.

    Show threadTaldanFeb 3

    I signed up, but I really have to wonder why they need names and zip codes?

    Seems like an easy target if that information leaks. Trump’s regime would love that list

    Show threadFudgyMcTubbsFeb 3
    Dude… They already know the list. Everybody posts their stupid opinions all over public forums, sometimes anonymous, sometimes with verified identities, and likely very rarely with a vpn. It would take very little for “the government” to compile that list with even more intimate details, and I assume that’s already been done. They know who you are and where you stand. The idea that we can think, much less act, in anonymity is antiquated.
    Show threadevenglowFeb 7
    If you want to organize an illegal general strike where last time the US government just started killing people on the strike line… Go right ahead.