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But never announce it on social media. The purists will fight you.

Vegans have the worst PR department ever

I’ve never encountered a group I mostly agree with that I want to avoid more

I’ve been a strict Vegan for over a decade now and even i tend to stay away from the crowd. It’s a bit better offline, but depends on how much any person needs to boost their ego by signaling moral pureness.
I’m a bacontarian like in the image, but I love sharing recipes with all folks. This works even for the hardcore vegans.

The word you are looking for is Murderer, obviously 😉

But honestly, cutting out animal products helps animals, so thanks for that. Should it be all animal products? I’d say yes and live accordingly, but i can accept that other people arrive at other points.

cutting out animal products helps animals

no, it doesn’t.

no, it doesn’t.

this is stated without any supporting evidence, and can be dismissed without any evidence.

Meat production

Expressed in tonnes. Includes cattle, poultry, sheep/mutton, goat, pigmeat, and wild game.

Our World in Data

Cool, a graph showing that [Chinas wealth has increased since the 60s.]((ourworldindata.org/…/meat-production-tonnes?tab=c…)

Wanna try again?

Meat production

Expressed in tonnes. Includes cattle, poultry, sheep/mutton, goat, pigmeat, and wild game.

Our World in Data
make any excuse you want: being vegan hasn’t stopped any animal from being killed

I have friends that have saved several wild dogs and cats while on holiday, because of the compassion they developed for animals since becoming Vegans.

So your totalitarian claim is wrong right away.

If you look at Europe, eating less meat seems to impact the industry.

According to preliminary data from the Agricultural Market Information Company (AMI), the trend reversed for the first time last year. Average per capita meat consumption across the EU in 2024 was 66 kg, 2 kg higher than the previous year.

There are significant differences in consumption between individual countries: Per capita meat consumption is highest in Cyprus (88 kg), Ireland (87 kg), Portugal (85 kg), and Spain (85 kg). At 53 kg per capita, Germany is well below the EU average and is among the countries with the lowest meat consumption. In the long term, the AMI does not expect a further increase in per capita meat consumption in the EU due to changing eating habits.

The AGI is hardly an activist organisation, so i’d wager that they are not biased here.

Since eating habits in many countries that are slowly closing the gap to western countries are changing from vegetarian to more meat, the global data is obscured a lot.

But the logic of vegetarians and vegans not buying meat and an ever rising number of plant based alternatives consumed even by people, who are only looking for a reduction in meat consumption, seems clear to me.

none of this changes the fact that more meat is produced every year.

just eating beans doesn’t help animals. you need to go to where the animals are and help them