ThalesFeb 3

Did you pay your taxes?

https://sh.itjust.works/post/54614809

Show threadorcaFeb 3

And we still have to play the guessing game where we try to estimate the number that the government already knows, but won’t divulge to us, like some sort of fucked up psychological game.

This shit is so fucked. I’m awaiting the collapse.

Show threadBirds are not real
This is when daddy marx reels you into his pleasure house by telling you about how he predicted all this shit and had advocated for the dictatorship by the proletiariat, capitalism has always been doomed and the reagan bullshit about the trinkle down economics is why there is such a resurfacing advocacy for the leftist doctrines.
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Show threadmortnFeb 3
“We have a finite environment - the planet. Anyone who thinks that you can have infinite growth in a finite environment is either a madman or an economist”. ~ Sir David Attenborough
Show threadBirds are not realFeb 3
Couldn’t they also be a mathematician? The Pointcarré recurrence theorem is a good example of infinite rate in a fixed dimensional space. Also, that quote really oversimplifies environmental engineering, the ozone layer has been fixed by the kyoto convention because every person with the simplest understanding of the carbon cycle can understand why the earth has been able to sustain ressource consumption for all animals and can still do so for a very long time still, infinitely or not.
Show threadadbFeb 3
IMHO mathematicians go into the madman category.
Show threaddmention7Feb 3

Obligatory

Show threadBirds are not realFeb 4

At times when we cannot understand the causality of a problem, it is better to acknowledge what we know, and importantly, what we do not know.

Rest, and relax, math is not the issue here, the problem is ignorance. And you have just posted a tribalistic fallacy believing that things are simple, us vs them and the system being akin to big brother. Nature is more complex than you think and so is a reality in which over 8 000 000 000 exist, and all pitch in to the pool of what the future will always carry back.

Show threadtetris11Feb 3

Ozone was fixed because the cost of shifting to a different gas was economically viable for largely Western countries.

The Montreal protocol was still impressive though as something that many countries could agree on without it becoming political. Ah, simpler times.

Show threadBirds are not realFeb 4

Haha, i agree, and thank you for the correction, my memory is not what it used to be, the montreal protocol did fix the ozone layer problem, the kyoto protocol adressed different issues, my error. Hopefully common sense will shift regarding the assumption that nuclear energy is bad, in my view, it is the only way to sustain humankind as we move past the recent start of the fifth industrial revolution. Humanists like Marx, Keynes and Rifkin seem to agree that the hopeful (and paradoxially very unlikely) sixth will be the death of work but I still have to see how things advance before I start believing into it.

China has shown a lot of promise thus far with their carbon reduction and development of small scale nuclear reactors, and hopefully someone will fix the fission theory someday. And concerning the simpler times, things are strange indeed in the future we live.

Show threadSkyeStarfallFeb 3

Animals don’t grow infinitely. If their population surpasses capacity, they have a mass die-off

I don’t know why you being in the ozone layer here. That was not a problem that had anything to do with reaource consumption.

Show threadTubularTittyFrogFeb 4
economic growth isn’t necessarily material growth.