@bubobubo ooh Forth! is it available somewhere? i'm curious because it looks a lot like my own ideas for using Forth in live coding, except I also thought about having special bracket tokens / stack values you can use for making array / pattern literals, eg. instead of "c2 c4 2 choose" you could write "[ c2 c4 ] choose", and "{c2 d2}*4" in Strudel's mini-notation might look like "[ c2 d2 ] 4 *"