ellyJan 30
Yet another day of screaming at digital enshitiffication:

1. My coworkers and I are in a car driving to FOSDEM.
2. We pull up to charge the car.
3. Charging station REQUIRES you to use an app, no option to just pay with a card.
4. We try to install the stupid app. We carry phones running:
- GrapheneOS
- GrapheneOS
- GrapheneOS
- LineageOS, postmarketOS, iOS
5. Neither of our phones meet requirements to install the stupid app (Play Integrity API).
6. My iPhone can't install the app, because it's "Not available in your country".
7. We give up and drive to another charging station.

This is NOT how you introduce applications, "Circle K" 
Show threadzoe 

@elly my worst experience was with a charger that only had a anonymous web app, meaning if you reload the page the state is lost.

So yeah we pulled up to charge, plugged it in, had some troubles with the connector actually locking, and then once we got it started it told us 1,50€/kWh. We immediately panicked and tried to stop the charging. The webapp had lost its state. There was no estop. We tried calling them. The phone number wasn't registered. We had to use the emergency unlock from the car

Jan 31 at 10:57amWeb
Show threadzoe Jan 31
@elly (sorry for weird way of writing, character limit go brr)
Show threaddeBaerJan 31
@commanderred @elly 14 years ago, Tesla introduced the Superchargers. You'd drive up to one, plug in, and it would always work and charge your car, no app nor RFID token needed. At first, they were free (and for some, they still are), later the charge would just get billed to the account associated with the car. The rest of the quick charging infrastructure is still a hot steaming mess even today, and Tesla is leaving the EV business to deal in AI slop like all other techbro companies… :-(
Show threadzoe Jan 31
@deBaer @elly Tesla Hardware as a whole is unfortunately quite bad. But also, billing etc. isn't sth that is Tesla exclusive. It's all defined in and around ISO 15118
Show threaddeBaerJan 31
@commanderred @elly Great, thanks, I now learned that there's a standard for plug and charge. But I have yet to see anyone using it successfully. (And I spend a lot of time at quick charging parks that also have CPOs other than Tesla.)
Show threadZ̈oéJan 31
@deBaer @commanderred @elly I used enbw autocharge with rental cars before, it really just works, quite amazing. just don’t forget to deactivate when you return the car 😅
Show threadZ̈oéJan 31

@deBaer @commanderred @elly also autocharge is literally just authentication based on MAC address lol

very secure. much wow.

Show threadzoe Jan 31

@uint8_t @deBaer @elly one can just plug in any PLC converter into the charger and then just speak IPV6

Wireshark gives some funny stuff :3