@DrALJONES i am halfway through a degree crim/psy plus i have decades lived experience with toxic partners so i know a bit myself.

i don't think it's helpful to criminalise ppl with #clusterB-PDs, i have bpd myself & am constantly criminalised & outcast.

i do think ppl should be held to account for their behaviour at all times tho. just with love & care.

i know, kinda hard when ppl are mass murdering others, but human rights are also applicable to frump & co.

@poisonpunk

I take your point, but wonder about "criminalised", given that the term applies to criminal behaviour, not to diagnoses of disorders.??

From my pov, it's about separating harmful behaviour from the person. Rights apply to the person, not the behaviour

@DrALJONES
ppl like me who never had a chance in hell from the get-go to master the skill of regulating emotions & behaviour bc they've only ever been abused & neglected are being judged at face-value just like everyone else.

that means i get criminalised instantly the second i lose my rag. i am saying that ppl need educating on these behaviours, & importantly, taught to take account for their own behaviour in a conflict situation.
my motto is: change the world, start with your self.

@poisonpunk

Yes, understand. I've been there. I guess you've heard of dialectical behaviour therapy (DBT). i found it useful.

As you know, the essence of patriarchy is bullying & punishment. It has no other way of treating people, and the most vulnerable suffer the most.

@poisonpunk

Re personality disorders, I guess you know that many are treatable, eg, bpd, but, so far, psychopathy is not.

The psychopathic brain structure is incapable of empathy &, hence, conscience.

In case of interest:

James Fallon, neuroscientist & psychopath:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSatsGU5UKQ .

James Fallon, PhD: The Psychopath Inside

What makes a killer? UC Irvine neuroscientist Dr. James Fallon has unique insight into the brains of psychopaths - one that surprised him, and provides us wi...

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@DrALJONES thank you, i'll definitely study that post.

i know off course psychopathy is untreatable. but it should be picked up in early childhood to at least attempt to stop it developing. and ppl like frump still have human rights that should be respected regardless.

him & all the elite should be isolated from society & assessed & treated humanely with care & love. but i am talking 'tough love'. compassion but with very strict boundaries and on our terms, not the perpetrators.

@poisonpunk

"Should": the term has lost all meaning under patriarchy/fascism.

Fallon speaks at length about early childhood experience and psychopathy.

I agree of course that psychopaths that do harm should be isolated and treated humanely.

Re trump et al, they don't think anything is wrong with them. Plus treatment can make them better at psychopatny

@DrALJONES off course they don't think anything is wrong with them, that's one of the main symptoms which makes it impossible for them to recover, including their following on what i call 'the narcissistic roundabout '. a relationship dynamic in narcissistic/psychopathic individuals & their families or followers/cults.