RE: https://cyberplace.social/@WiteWulf/115962212168435175

There is something particularly obscene about watching Americans literally fighting and dying in the streets of Minneapolis to protect their immigrant neighbors from a fascist pogrom and choosing to focus on “gun violence” as an abstract issue to solve by disarming those same Americans.

I get the sense that more Europeans than I had I realized have crafted their identities around a sense of smug superiority over primitive, barbaric Americans and a handful of stock issues like “the guns.”

Which is how you end up with people who probably imagine themselves to be sensible liberals laser-focused on “gun violence” as if it is a cultural trait rather than on the guns that literal fascists are currently using to murder people on the streets.

Liberals have done such an extraordinary job of connecting guns per capita with gun violence *causally* that some of them have convinced themselves that the mere act of possessing a gun causes gun deaths, as if contributing to some general gun-violence miasma.

So we end up with a situation in which the state is literally summarily executing people in the streets and all they can focus on is trying to talk people out of arming themselves in self-defense.

@HeavenlyPossum Every time we see guns, we die. That's just how they work. You look at one, and you perish. You collapse upon sight.

It's also bizarre to watch Western Europeans act like it's only the US who allows people to have guns and uh...

... I'm sitting in an EU country where there are... six levels of licensing, including "concealed carry" and "home self-defense." So like... what the fuck are they even on about.

@whatanerd

It’s mostly Brits who are convinced that having outlawed guns has insulated them from political violence in perpetuity.

@whatanerd @HeavenlyPossum seems like a pretty clear case of the basic but common error, thinking that the differences between life in different geographies are pretty much entirely the direct and intended result of which state's legal system prevails there.

(also sitting in an eu country where there's a pretty active hunting culture for europe and compulsory military service which teaches most men to use guns, but a murder rate like 1/6th of the US's)