Filippo ValsordaJan 26

RE: https://wetdry.world/@16af93/115961732893013803

Because not using AI tools for what they excel at will produce less secure code.

For example, they are great at debugging (https://words.filippo.io/claude-debugging/), they can find real issues in code review, they know more math than me or most of my colleagues, and they can write static analyzers I would have never had the time to write myself.

Show threadDaniel SpiewakJan 26
@filippo @16af93 It’s almost as if they’re a tool like any other: applying that tool correctly creates better outcomes than if you ignore it, just as applying it incorrectly creates worse outcomes.
Show threadLambda Crime [The Möth Society]Jan 26
@djspiewak @filippo a tool of ethically at best dubious nature, but then again the torment nexus is just a tool too
Show threadFilippo ValsordaJan 26
@16af93 @djspiewak ^ a social media post sent over the internet using a device made in China, each a tool of ethically dubious nature
Show threadLambda Crime [The Möth Society]Jan 26
@filippo @djspiewak there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, but at least the phone that sends these posts has been chosen to reduce the harm caused, further a phone is nearly universially mandatory to use to participate in society - so not that much of a gotcha as you think
Show threadDaniel Spiewak
@16af93 @filippo There's definitely a lot of dubiousness going on, I agree. As someone who has about two and a half decades of OSS corpus which has been stolen and swirled around in the bowels of these things, I'm very uncomfortably familiar with the contradiction here. But my discomfort or lack thereof isn't going to change anything. I can disadvantage myself and those who rely on my production, but I can't really affect the problem at its root.
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Show threadLambda Crime [The Möth Society]Jan 26

@djspiewak @filippo usage gives legitimacy to ai, and legitimacy allows further exploitation and laundering of exploitation

personally these tools produce too much harm on every level to be given legitimacy (see the recent trends with ai psychosis, people being diluted by these overly agreeable models to the point of being emotionally disturbed by models changing their behavior (see the ai gf crowd), and curl needing to stop their bug bounty program because of ai swamping them.with bogus reports)