WursiIt's Stalinist to want walkable cities with fewer cars, apparently 🤦
There’s a conspiracy theory that what 15 minute cities secretly means is that you’ll be confined in a sector of the city and unable to leave without a permit or something.
Why anyone would think that, no idea!
Possibly because that’s actually what the fascists want.
Authoritarians are poor at distinguising “is allowed to” from “is forced to.” This is also why they hate gay people-- they think that if someone else is allowed to be gay, that’ll mean that everyone will be compelled to.
The reality is that they fear freedom. They like the taste of boot.
Valmond
queermunist she/herOr like, why do they think this couldn’t happen in a city with cars?
They can just block the roads and cars are worthless.
SeductiveTortoiseIn car-centric American cities however, that would be impossible. You can’t just block the single street that leads out of the neighborhood!
Oh, wait.
BlackmistI don’t think it makes any logical sense. It doesn’t need to, because that’s not the point.
Repeat the buzzwords (15 minute cities, WEF, replacement theory, etc) on Facebook or Twitter and the lunatic followers/bots will magically appear to follow, like and subscribe you up the social media pages.
TheTechnician27Maybe tankies are the way they are because they live in some bastardized allegory of the cave where all they’ve ever learned about Stalin is from Duncan White, director of the Alliance of British Drivers.
The tankies I’ve known have almost all been middle-class contrarian twats. They often convert to the hard right when they get older, maybe because it increases their chances of actually being able to ruin people’s lives.
Ooops“[…] “perverse” and “Stalinist” approach to social control, adding: “It is an encroachment on civil liberties, and it is a page out of the East Germany playbook. With the 15-minute city, you will have to, in effect, apply for an internal passport to go and visit your granny.”
That’s nothing new. Fossil fuel funded desinformation and their not-less-desinformation-loving right-wing friends have a long history of telling the fairy tale of 15-min cities as a kind of population control.
It’s all based on the basic premise that car-brains can’t understand that “you cannot go there freely by car” is not the same as “you cannot go there freely at all”.
It’s called a train ticket and it should be subsidized too
It’s horrible. I’ve had to give up my beloved 90-minute commute, and if I want something from a shop, I have to got off my lazy arse and spend a couple of minutes walking over there, instead of wasting 20 minutes each way driving to some nightmarish big-box retail hellhole in the outskirts of the city.
And let’s not even talk about the clean air and nearly complete absence of road-raging premature-ejaculator drivers speeding along the city streets.
bufalo1973“Journalism opens the door to writing articles after a frontal lobotomy”
Yesterday I headed out from the apartment for errands. I walked a total of about 8 blocks. I completed:
- A haircut
- Shopping for some house items
- Post office for mailing a letter and stamps
- Stopped to listen to some live music in a market hall
- Talked with a local community group about tech stuff
- Visited a library
- Hit up the bank ATM
- Snagged a couple bags of groceries
Total time: about 115 minutes
I LOVE living in a walkable neighborhood. Fuck car-only life. If you want it, fine, but don’t demand that we all live in your apocalyptic transportation hellscape.
I could have done all thos trips in 20 minutes with my car, if we ignore the time in traffic, the time fueling it, the time waiting for oil changes, and the time spent earning the money to pay for the car, the gas, and the insurance.
You also left out finding parking and then walking through spectacularly scenic parking lots to and from each destination’s front door. With bigger malls/box stores you’d walk further than I did going around the block just having to cross the parking lot.
Parking? All of those stops were drive thrus
Jokes on you: the city I moved away from in the US added a parking garage to the historic register. If you weren’t so focused on waiting in a line of cars for the drive thru, you could be enjoying 10 stories of historically crumbling concrete!
wonderingwandererIn Europe, 18th Century churches are new.
Yeah, though I’m also in Berlin so many were fully or partially rebuilt after the various wars. They’re old and new now. Still gorgeous. I love me a tall stone building!
Oh. Yeah, Berlin is definitely an exception…
djangoLink to where you get your haircut via drive through?
Living in a 15-minute city, it’s almost as nice as the previously screeched-about “Shari’a no-go zones” in Paris. I was in one of those when that hysteria started, drinking an excellent bottle of wine with a friend of mine and a charming French-Algerian couple.
And if my quiet little city’s modest efforts at pedestrianisation are Stalinist, then I’ve misunderstood Stalinism and maybe it’s not so bad after all (except the purges, the Molotove-Ribbentripp pact and the Holodomor).
Note for the paranoid: you can easily be tracked if you drive a car, though in-car telemetry and ANPR cameras. But you’re nearly invisible to the authorities if you’re a pedestrian or a cyclist.
I’ve misunderstood Stalinism and maybe it’s not so bad after all (except the purges, the Molotove-Ribbentripp pact and the Holodomor).
This is actually correct, Stalin did sign some awful stuff into law (although it’s not the examples you are giving: the worst things are the LGBT ban, rollback on worker’s democracy, and NKVD “troika” trials), but also did some pretty solid stuff like industrializing the country, improving employment and poverty rates, and defeating nazis.
the Molotove-Ribbentripp pact
Here’s a fun mostly-unknown fact about this one: the pact(s) included military technology transfers, with one result being that advanced anti-aircraft guns earmarked for the battleship Bismarck were instead given to the USSR. Bismarck ended up being fatally crippled by British biplanes.
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bossitoAs it happens, Russian cities saw huge sprawl during the USSR, though probably mostly starting in the sixties. As is usual, the pre-revolution city centre is twisty and cozy, while around it are radiating straight avenues for kilometres. So sorta the opposite of what the headline says.
Eh, for all its faults Moscow has a fucking amazing metro+light rail system. All my friends who still live there aren’t even thinking about buying cars, because why would they?
Almacca
pewgar_seemsimandroidleast obvious bias.
Does this also come with universal health care, free education, 100% emoloyment, and housing as a right? If not, it’s not very Stalinist.
This is the UK, so we do actually have the NHS which is free at point of use for all citizens, provided you can wait the wait times, free primary and secondary education and university that costs £10k per year, and council housing for those who can’t access housing in any other way. That’s three out of four, at least.
You just need to re-open the coal mines to get the 100% employment.
Please no
Ironfist“every opinion different than mine is stalinist!” said the chugs with their mouths full of mcnuggets and cheap beer.
Brave Little Hitachi WandExpensive beer is Stalinist
DFX4509BOh, look. The Torygraph.
MarshezezzWhen they argue in bad faith, they’ll say anything and never waver from it to further their agenda.