ByteOnBikesJohnny Appleseed planting apple trees for kids to eat
Correct, it was a land grab scam based on the laws of the time.
IIRC, if he planted trees it was then his land because he was using it, so he could then sell it for actual money. This was after the military had killed or chased out the natives who lived on it, of course.
TheTechnician27IIRC
You don’t recall correctly, and I have no idea where you got that information. Appleseed actually was a successful businessman who bought some land, owning about 1200 acres (~5 km^2^), but by all accounts he was a genuinely good person, and I’ve never heard what you’re saying (and not substantiating) that he did.
Ah but you see, their comment has the message of “capitalism bad”, so it doesn’t really matter if what they wrote is true.
I’d go even further and say that this is more generic than capitalism/anticapitalism wish fulfillment. It’s a desire to speak truth to power but without any of the effort or sincere curiosity to learn what that truth is. To have that truth condensed onto a smaller and smaller spoon until you don’t even realize you’re being spoonfed at all is the ideal.
And you really think that at 62 I’m gonna go track down a historical tidbit to satisfy the gatekeeping of a LEMMY sub?
HAHAHAHAHA
Shit, man, pull the other one.
And yes, capitalism IS bad and people back then were just as horrible as people today. You’ll get it if you survive to my age.
And you really think that at 62 I’m gonna go track down a historical factoid to satisfy the gatekeeping of a LEMMY sub?
Well hey, as a wise person once said:
Too damn many stupid people in this world.
Citation [21]"Johnny Appleseed, Orchardist,” prepared by the staff of the Public Library of Fort Wayne and Allen Couth, November 1952, page 26
Here, I took the trouble for you. He was not, by any accounts, a good business man.
Please avoid spreading disinformation. This isn’t facebook.
He was not, by any accounts, a good business man.
Hey, that wasn’t me, that was another guy. I was just relaying his statement. You can check his citation if you want.
Please avoid spreading disinformation.
It’s a meaningless factoid, bro. Relax.
He was not, by any accounts, a good business man.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Damn, that’s the funniest thing I’ve seen today.
What’s the goal here? Agitate people on line for fun?
You’re not arguing in good faith. You tell people that you are in your sixties and disabled, as if that’s excuse for your behavior. You add no context or sources. What’re you looking to get out of engaging in a public forum? What does lemmy.world get you that Facebook does not?
At this point, yes.
It is astounding to me that with all the shit wrong with this planet, you guys have the energy to get this worked up about a factoid.
What does lemmy.world get you that Facebook does not?
Waaay more reactive children who get completely bent out of shape about shit like this.
Miles O'BrienYes, capitalism bad, but uhhhhh
You’ll get it if you survive to my age.
OK boomer
“I’m too old to care if what I say is true” what age do I get to just start saying stuff and act like other people are the problem when they call me out on pulling shit out of my ass and presenting it as fact?
Well, back in my 20s a coworker forgave me for leaning Democrat because “if you’re a Republican in your 20s you have no heart. If you’re a Democrat in your 30s you have no brain.”
So, I’d say never. Reality matters at all ages. Well, until you have deep dementia. At that point, enjoy the invisible angels that help you use the restroom. You need all the help you can get. (Source: my mom on the occasions of caring for my grandmother)
chill down.
Yes, it’s not good to spread information without double-checking it, but expecting people to double check everything they hear, read or watch is entirely unreasonable.
They didn’t try to pass it out as a truth, that’s why they added “iirc” at the beginning.
You’re implying ill intent without making sure there is one in the first place. It’s basically the same error they made: they haven’t checked the story they heard, you haven’t checked whether they did it on purpose.
If it would’ve been the case, they would be already telling you how wrong you are, and how right their version of the story is.