Some of you are too young to remember when we found the 'black gold' in the North Sea ....
@Geri As someone looking to immigrate there, it is really a cool system. The important things the government controls, but there is still a lot of room for fun innovative things. Norwegians are fearless because they can try new things, and if they fail, they fail. It's not the end of the world. It's just money. It's paper. People don't starve because of failure. If they will starve because of failure, then government controls it.

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I remember learning from a friend who lived in Scandinavia why Norway didn't join EU, is to a great extent because they didn't want to be forced into neoliberal policies of privatisation (but they still contribute to all socially beneficial parts of EU, even stuff like counting wildlife and spend their taxpayers money on this without too much drama, whereas even when UK was in EU many folk resented every penny spent on the social aspects (but still wanted the "Common Market" so their businesses could make money

@vfrmedia @Geri I've yet to have any of my Norwegian friends complain about costs and taxes. And it's not like austere soviet Russia, they drive fun cars that are all different, and are very individualistic. But not at the cost of wellness towards others. They like having money for fun stuff, but they also don't want people dieing from lack of basic necessities. The nordic model really does prove you can have have your cake and eat it too
@praetor @vfrmedia @Geri In comparison the failure of the capitalist system in the US, some of Europe and the rest of the World, anyplace where humans can horde at the expense of others.
Agree to allow humans to become $$$ gluttons, they will, and will then manufacture all manner of excuses, as to why they deserve it blind to the instability their hoarded wealth contributes to the society they live within. πŸ€”
@Huntn00 @vfrmedia @Geri Ive honest never understood money hoarding. My mother does that. We as humans are a pro-social species. Just like many other social mammals. And not doing what is fundamentally good for the entire collective is counter to how we are biologically. This capitalism, hustle culture sort of thing is very new in our evolution - within the last 2000 years. We're predominantly a tribe, or clan species like most big apes are. It's so counterintuitive
@praetor @vfrmedia @Geri The evidence is that when reality is distorted, usually ego is involved, the excuses can be produced. this has been ongoing, out of control in the β€œGreed is Good” US since the 80s.
@Huntn00 @vfrmedia @Geri oh I'm an '82 vintage, and my parents are beyond success obsessed. I can't tolerate either one of them. I live with my 80 year old grandmother, and she's got that "it's great if you have it, and if you do, spend it, that's what it's for. But it's not the whole of existence". But you're right, I remember the 80s being really greed focused.