LadyButterfly she/herJan 21
So many successes
Show threadFiniteBanjoJan 21

Listen, power to women, and Vera Rubin’s work was amazing and she deserves every praise.

But nobody has ever proven the existence of Dark Matter. What’s proven is that our current mathematical models do not accurately represent the universe due to the way things move and effects of gravity, under our current understanding, requiring a large amount of mass that we have not observed.

Does that make sense? It could be that our models or understandings are just wrong, or it could be that there is some magical unobservable matter, but we don’t know. We haven’t proven anything.

Show threadAdaJan 21

What’s proven is that our current mathematical models do not accurately represent the universe due to the way things move and effects of gravity

This is actually the bit that Vera Rubin discovered. The summary of her discovery in the quote is the issue :)

Show threadMiles O'BrienJan 21
That’s… What finitebanjo said?
Show threadAdaJan 21

Originally, banjos post read like the line about Vera Rubin was outright incorrect, rather than simply being a case of the OP in the image making a poor summary of her contributions.

It sounded like Banjo was challenging Vera’s relevance in the list, rather than clarifying what she actually did

Show threadFiniteBanjo
I would not make praising her the opening statement of my comment if I were challenging her contributions.
Jan 22 at 9:02amWeb
Show threadAdaJan 22
Broadly, what you said was “Power to her, but what’s proven is that our current mathematical models do not accurately represent the universe”. The “but” in that statement is that issue, as it sounds like you’re challenging her findings with a correction, but your correction was just to summarise her initial findings
Show threadFiniteBanjoJan 22

Her achievment is proving the current mathematical models do not represent the universe and explaining why, where many men before her utterly failed.

Her achievment is not proving the existence of dark matter.

The “but” is very warranted and I honestly feel like the “dark matter is real” zealots are the ones besmirching her name by misrepresenting her accomplishments.

Show threadAdaJan 23
What I’m getting at is that your “but” made it sound like you were challenging her findings, rather than images incorrect summary of her findings.