Rien@Veza85UE curious about your thoughts about the unfolding events. Will this be another big moment for European integration? Will we be able to do so within the current bloc or do we need to make new treaties with a coalition of the willing? (And leave the Orban-kind regimes behind). Could we be able to find European leaders who are able and willing to act and speak like Canada's Carney?
Veza85UE@rien 1/2 I'm glad he's popular in their group chat (gets quoted by a lot of politicians).
As for the current... clusterfuck, I don't really think of it as a "moment". In my mind, it's been ongoing since the Syrian civil war on the security/defence side with a bunch of other permacrises thrown in, the EU was never going to do anything but integrate further as a result. YallQaeda are my useful idiots for EU integration, on the conditions-side of things I'm getting everything I've ever wanted.
As for the current... clusterfuck, I don't really think of it as a "moment". In my mind, it's been ongoing since the Syrian civil war on the security/defence side with a bunch of other permacrises thrown in, the EU was never going to do anything but integrate further as a result. YallQaeda are my useful idiots for EU integration, on the conditions-side of things I'm getting everything I've ever wanted.
@Veza85UE fair enough, the current developments have been in the making for years now. Dutch society just has shown such an incredible strength in ignoring it for most of these days. I think you are completely right in your trust in the slow and steady pace of European integration and the work on new treaties, in whatever coalition that proves to be workable (as is always has been changing and messy - see the image from some years ago).
@Veza85UE I think your summary of Carney's movement make sense, and yet I have a lot of respect for the way he explains what he is doing - for example how his speech yesterday lines up with earlier actions (immediately after getting elected and very recent in reaching out to other countries including China for trade-deals etc).
@rien As much as I enjoy ribbing them, I can't be too harsh on the Dutch now that I suspect you are pioneers of the Sexy Liberalism Resistance. It's one of my unhinged theories about our stupidest timeline in which for most normies politics is a moodboard on which on most days they vibe with content, not policies. And while it was perhaps always so, there used to be gatekeepers for the moodboards and they kept the vibes pretty boring, whereas the algorithm released the MDMA type.
@rien The fash were way better at capitalising on early internet hype as long as it was mostly text-based, but in the video era we're catching up and frankly, us having the hot urbanite types while they attract so many ugly incels helps. We can pump out better moodboards. We're slowly learning the dark arts. In the EU we do still need to build solid autonomy systems, so we can aura farm like this 24/7 (not a coincidence only the guy with nukes gets to do it...)
@rien guapocracia vindicated yet again.
@Veza85UE quite a good moodboard once again, right? :)
I really enjoyed the 'Russians go home' chanting and the fact that aligning yourself with Putin and Trump is now a potential electoral weakness. Thanks to the Hungarian voters!
(And at the same time this new guy comes from the party of Orbán, his backing will crumble now that the common enemy is beaten and we have to wait and see how he will behave within the EU.)
@rien In the EU he'll behave like a kitten faced with its first taste of exquisite tuna deluxe:
https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:xv2as7miy7ghje2htfynaqex/post/3mjd7yw6yi223
Among the constitutional reforms he's announced and which were in his platform all along is joining EPPO. So with that and Ruszkik haza! it's already been a fantastic win for all of us in the EU. Just run hotter candidates who aren't work-shy, everyone. ¡Viva la guapocracia!
Hungarians can handle him at home, up to them if they're vigilant enough.
