fingolasHow the regime in Iran jams Starlink and what people could do
By now, the US lead ‘regime-change operation’ have failed - miserably. Millions of Iranians went on to the streets and protested pro government, and against the small group of artificially agitated rioters than stood for all the violence/provocations (and filmed/sent via starlink oc).
The ugly and very unpleasant truth for us privacy oriented people, is that US are using us as internet-warriors to breach firewalls setup by attacked nations. ANY nation that does not have an internet firewall and their own social media, will get their population propagandized and be hi-jacked/politically colonized by the US Plutocracy. The ‘wevil ones’ are proclaimed as Dictators/Authoritarians in violent regimes that oppress their people, but the only thing these nations do ‘wrong’, is that they won’t surrender their nations to the US/Western overlords. A fair and humble wish, I think.
Chinese, Russian and Iranian people don’t need us to fight for their ‘freedom’, bc they have much more freedom than we do in the West, and it is us that are completely propagandized to believe that everyone else is ‘savages’ and needs our Oligarchs to come in and ‘put things in order’ - we are no better than the common shitters of the past that supported and allowed the wipeout of the wevil Indians, supported slavery and colonization throughout the West.
We still moronically believe the embarrassing US narrative of the ‘Wevil non-civilized regimes’ out there, and thus supports the US Plutocracy in constantly killing off/terrorizing millions of people and dozens of peaceful nations/people… Yay for us - the progressive west…
Chinese, Russian and Iranian people don’t need us to fight for their ‘freedom’, bc they have much more freedom than we do in the West
JFC you’re an idiot
Ok buddy. Listen just because the West and the USA are kinda broken and doing fucked up shit right now, doesn’t automatically make “the other side” right or good.
The fact that you think the US is only doing fucked up shit “right now” shows that you have no understanding of US imperialism and colonialism.
Iran government bad. US government and Jewish ISIS are way worse, and not just now.
I didn’t say they haven’t done fucked up shit forever. I’m saying jumping on the fact that they are doing messed up shit right now doesn’t make the “other side” right. No matter how bad the US is, it has no impact on the opinion of their enemies.
This is the biggest problem with goobers like this, they hate the US, with good reason, but don’t quite grasp that the people the US are fighting aren’t automatically the good guys.
So they end up supporting some pretty horrific regimes.
gedaliyahSo the people killing women for partially uncovering their hair are the good guys?
The people murdering thousands of protestors are the good guys?
So the religious fundamentalists imposing doctrine at gunpoint are the good guys?
I think the people protesting for their lives and freedoms are the good guys, but that’s just me.
Nothing as good guy as machine gunning a protest. They are tankies, remember.
arararagiHow is it different from all who died from lack of medical care in the US?
You are not free just because you can call your president a meanie.
Chinese, Russian and Iranian people don’t need us to fight for their ‘freedom’,
Oh look, yet another Tankie who thinks the grass would be greener where the lawn describes itself as communist.
How’s that “more freedom” been going for the Uyghur? Or maybe you meant the freedom to free-fall out a window when running as a political opposition to Putin?
Or maybe you meant the freedom to free-fall out a window when running as a political opposition to Putin?
Oh, yes. My sister’s friend once went to a protest. Each time she crosses the border (has to see relatives in Russia and all that), it’s an hour long interview.
When talking to Russians who emigrated away from Russia, you will find plenty of stories just like your sister’s friend’s one.
What the people idolizing the country seem to not realize is that living there as a national is oppressive. Your standard of living depends on staying in the good graces of the government—good graces that can quickly be lost by appearing to go against them.
The United States government is working its way towards that at an astonishing pace, but saying Russia has more freedoms is a complete falsehood.
Your standard of living depends on staying in the good graces of the government—good graces that can quickly be lost by appearing to go against them.
First of all, your standard of living heavily depends on how big a network of friends and family you have. If it’s zero, then as a guy your life won’t be very interesting, and as a gal you might run out of non-exploitative choices.
Second, about good graces and such - yeah, doing political activism you might start having problems with banking and many other things.
Gsus4Least insane .ml tankie
‘he was downvoted for speaking the truth’
Good article. Very interesting.
TL;DR: Starlink recievers use methods to make it so they don’t have to be directly positioned at satellites; this in turn leaves them vulnerable to “side lobe jamming” and GPS spoofing. The suggestion is to point them directly and cover them i.e. in a pit or in a cavity of some such so that the jamming / spoofing doesn’t reach it.
NOT_RICKIt sounds like the downside here would be that you loose reliability in your connection. Probably fine for most things.
driving_croonerWhat is going to happen when countries decide that they don’t want starlink satellites over thei air space and start to blow them up?
It would be hard to do? How much would that affect the general use of starlink for users on other parts of the world?
Very hard to do. You need to be able to launch to the same orbits as the satellites and Starlink uses thousands of satellites, almost all of which will at some point fly over those countries. So they’d need to shoot them all down.
a1studmuffinLook up Kessler syndrome for an answer as to what may happen if starlink satellites were attacked, although I think I recall people more knowledgeable than me stating this orbit is low enough where it may not be a permanent issue. Nations only control their airspace up to the Karman line which is 100km up. Starlink satellites are well beyond that.
Given that space isn’t owned by any one country, and Starlink is a US company, whose services are used by the US government, there’s a very good chance there would be military retaliation.
It would be hard to do? How much would that affect the general use of starlink for users on other parts of the world?
Only two countries have demonstrated air launched rockets that can destroy satellites on orbit, the USA and Russia. There is good speculation that China has built anti-satellites satellites, but no one is aware of any actual proven test.
Now, lets assume that all 3 countries decide they want to attack Starlink satellites at once with all their weapons. Perhaps they destroy 30 satellites in total. As of November 2025 the Starlink network surpassed 10,000 satellites in orbit. As for replacing the lost satellites, a single launch places 25 to 28 satellites in orbit at a time. Within the next 24 hours 25 more Starlink satellites will be launched:
In 4 days, another launch is occurring that will place 24 more Starlink satellites in orbit.
So destroying a few dozen Starlink satellites might cause a slight blip in coverage for maybe a few minutes tops.
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Didn’t starlink satellites in really low orbit? Maybe you don’t need as sofisticate technology as with other satellites.
That picture of the F-15 jet firing the missile was at a satellite 300 miles up. Starlink satellites are about 350 miles up.
Maybe, but not guaranteed. Starlink satellites aren’t very big (meaning not very large pieces if they blow up). Additionally, Starlink satellites have active avoidance systems that can “dodge” debris to a degree (its slow, but space is big). Lastly, because the pieces would be small, they’d experience more atmospheric drag and fall back to Earth faster. Whether that means weeks instead of years, I don’t know.
It’s hard to predict the outcome in such a chaotic event but starlink alone already does 100k+ collision avoidance maneuvers each year (can’t remember the exact number but is more than one every 2 minutes). It’s highly unlikely that we would be able to accurately track the newly formed debris of dozens of satellites blowing up and adjust the orbit of (potentially) hundreds of satellites in a few minutes.
You’d never get Kessler syndrome at Starlink altitudes.
Starlink satellites orbit at around 550km, and get dragged by the little bit of atmosphere that is at that altitude. Each collision might make more debris, but the conservation of momentum means that any debris that gets kicked to a lower orbit will probably burn up on the atmosphere while any debris that gets kicked to a higher altitude will be smaller mass and therefore cause less damage on the next collision after that.
Collisions can still happen, but the runaway conditions where debris begets debris won’t happen at those orbital velocities and altitude.
titanicxDidn’t China demonstrate last year that a land-based launch destroyed a satellite in space?
I haven’t seen it. I’d happy to look at a link if you have one.
I don’t know I think it’d take you the same amount of time to Google it as it would take for me to. I just seem to recall a news article I read sometime in the last 6 months where they stated that China has successfully test launched a rocket and destroyed a satellite in orbit.
I did search it before I wrote my original comment, thats what I cited about the anti-satellite satellite effort China did. So I’ve already taken the time and came up empty. You’re saying it exists, but I didn’t find it in my original search. So I’m asked you because you encountered the info firsthand and may have a better chance of finding it.
en.wikipedia.org/…/2007_Chinese_anti-satellite_mi…
Literally one of the first things that popped up if you search for China rocket destroys satellite.
Thank you for that link, I appreciate it. Here’s what I searched, and as you can see your link doesn’t show up:
Yeah that’s one thing that is always been a skill is you got to make sure you search things correctly. Not saying that you didn’t necessarily search correctly, however searching for China anti-satellite is not the same thing as China destroys satellite. You have different keywords different things that it references. It’s one of the biggest things as an IT guy that you learn. Is how to properly format searches in order to locate the exact information that you need. And just as an FYI I also searched it through duck duck go just on mobile rather than on a desktop.
🇦🇺𝕄𝕦𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕕𝕔𝕣𝕠𝕔𝕠𝕕𝕚𝕝𝕖I thought the fediverse hated starlink cos its an Elon musk associated thing? But now its good cos its allowing free speech to happen by oppressed people? But fediverse also hates free speech. Their is no consistency when it comes to the lemmy hivemind.
Your mistake is thinking it’s a hive mind in the first place. People argue on here all the same as they did on Reddit. The only things the fediverse provides us is avoiding a highly commercialized forum, freedom of app choice, and controls in what instances we accept communication with. Probably some other major things, but those are my top three.
Just stop yelling into an obvious echo chamber and find communities you’re more aligned with.
There’s gray between black and white.
I hate the meth-nazzi-fuck, I would hate more my government if it started to imprison random people for inclusive ideology or religion or whatever.
I would use starlink if it’s a good ad working way of communicating in difficult situation.
Still would hate the meth-nazi-fuck.
I don’t think we can fight all the battles, think about owning a car (few car constructors are ethic), or food providers (bulk animal killing), flying (environment), probably 90% of my phone comes from a billionaire slave owning company, clothes? Same.
What people could do?
Imitate them and put that fascist-owned monstrosity down everywhere.
Why the fuck amrikkkans meddle their nose in literally everything? Just leave the world alone you genocidal cunts
Article by a German outlet about violent repression in Tehran, and you crawl out to squeal about the US?
There was no violent repression. Its neocon propaganda to set the stage for Air strikes and regime change for Netanyahu’s benefit.