ByteOnBikesJan 18

NHS defends cousin marriages because ‘only 15 percent lead to birth defects’

https://discuss.online/post/34083202

NHS defends cousin marriages because ‘only 15 percent lead to birth defects’ - Discuss Online

Midwives have been told about the benefits of “close relative marriage” in training documents that minimise the risks to couples’ children. The documents claim “85 to 90 per cent of cousin couples do not have affected children” and warn staff that “close relative marriage is often stigmatised in England”, adding claims that “the associated genetic risks have been exaggerated”.

Show threadAlmightyDoormanJan 18

ITT: Blatant ableism disguised as concerns.

Should you be allowed to have children if you are a known carrier of some bad but not inmediatly deadly risk gene like fragile x, chorea huntington, mucoviszidosis, diabetes 1 (let's ignore the worsening of fragile x and chorea huntingtion across generations for a moment)? Should you be allowed to have children if you have trisomie 21, or some other mental disability? If you say no i think you are ableist and can't comprehend that people with special needs are still people that can be happy and can have desires.
If you say yes why can't two cousins have a child? What if they have two forms of birth control and just want to fuck? What if they are the same sex? I my experience most people who are against two cousins having sex do not give a flying fuck about some theoretical chile but just think it's icky. Which is a fair feeling you are allowed to have but should not be basis for a law.

Show threadKristellJan 18
This. I haven’t seen an argument about incest that doesn’t immediately devolve into eugenics, or talking about power imbalances that aren’t present with adult cousins
Show threadcircuscriticJan 18
Found a cousin fucker.
Show threadKristell

Solid observational skills! They have, however, failed you. Just because someone is pointing out that certain arguments don’t actually hold water doesn’t mean they engage in the activities the arguments are against.

I just don’t care if two cousins wanna fuck because the arguments against it are things that I’m actively opposed to, or don’t apply to the situation.

Jan 18 at 11:57pmWeb
Show threadcircuscriticJan 19
You’re not as persuasive as you think you are, and you’re not fooling anyone.
Show threadKristellJan 19

What, persuasive about not wanting to fuck my cousin? I don’t particularly care if anyone thinks I do. If I did, I wouldn’t be in a thread about fucking your cousin saying I think it’s fine to fuck your cousin. I know that people will make assumptions about my sex life based on my position alone.

If you mean about the arguments against it being eugenics, I care more about that point, because they are, and eugenics is bad.

Show threadcircuscriticJan 19

…jfc dude

Fun fact: Most of the places it’s legal in are blue. Alabama, Florida, North Carolina, and South Carolina are the only red states it’s legal in, out of 17 total states. If we include states where it’s conditionally legal (usually based on age/fertility) it’s Utah out of 7 states.

Show threadKristellJan 19

I… Don’t even actually see the point here? I have access to the internet, and know how to use a search engine? You can literally look that up on Wikipedia, are you trying to imply that because I looked at a Wikipedia article for this post that I want to fuck my cousin?

What a strange outlook on obtaining knowledge. If just knowing what states it’s legal again, something that takes about 30 seconds to find, makes you a cousin-fucker, wouldn’t that make you one too? Or is it just the first person in the thread doing it?