A German hacker known as "Martha Root" dressed as a pink Power Ranger and deleted a white supremacist dating website live onstage

This happened during the recent CCC conference.

Martha had infiltrated the site, ran her own AI chatbot to extract as much information from users as possible, and downloaded every profile. She also uncovered the owner of the site. She has published all of the data.
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https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-the-heartbreak-machine-nazis-in-the-echo-chamber
Leak data:
https://okstupid.lol/

The Heartbreak Machine: Nazis in the Echo Chamber

WhiteDate ist eine Plattform weißer Suprematist:innen, die sich an Rassist:innen und Antisemit:innen richtet – und auf veralteter Infrast...

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@x3r0x

It is of course obvious that chaotic evil and chaotic good are separated by a fine line.

People applaud this, some race purist website who wished to isolate himself from "brown people" gets destroyed because the vigilantes won't allow it.

But where do you draw the line on who gets to exist and who doesn't?

Your existence will soon rely on if a hacker agrees with you or not.

One wrong word, deleted, one wrong thought, purged.

And everybody claps like a happy seal when it happens?

@Dantevortex

With all due respect, this has been happening for a very long time.

We've seen hackers of all persuasions hacking for decades now. Silencing people, scraping data, shutting down servers.

Sometimes they do it for what some might consider good, sometimes for what those same people might consider evil.

But there's a big difference between a hack against a website pushing harmful ideology and someone saying a bad word or publishing a bad thought.

@timlah

These racists having a dating site allowing only the people of their selected race is very racist. I agree.

But which law are they breaking?
They're a private establishment who hate non white people. It's not against the law.

The thing is, we shouldn't applaud vigilantism.

This hacker is a criminal. We shouldn't celebrate whenever a criminal is a successful at being a criminal.

If making websites that exclude people should be banned, we have to ban a LOT of websites.

@Dantevortex

All black-hat hacking is illegal, regardless of morality/intent. Most hackers know this. However, vigilantes operate outside the law for a cause (rightly or wrongly). But who would report this?

If we focus just on law, then we might want to consider whether or not the websites actions are considered criminal as well.

In Europe (UK for me), this site tends to fall under hate speech, which is criminal (discrimination based on protected characteristics). At least here in the UK it would fall under the Equality Act 2010, I believe. Other countries have various laws on this too.

If a website was promoting a new cheese and a hacker decided they didn't like said cheese and took that website down, then no laws were broken by the host and then it's purely criminal damage.

I suppose some questions here:
Are current laws strong enough on those pushing illegal content?
Who reports the black-hat hacking activity?
Will they *also* report the illegal content?

These are some interesting points, thanks ❤️

@timlah

Websites that promote or sell things that are illegal, like drugs, child porn, or whatever is by law forbidden will be seized by authorities fairly quickly.

Racism by definition is illegal when used against a person.

So if a website targets a race and does harm to them, then yes, illegal.
But if it's a website that wants to avoid a race, then no harm to them is made. They aren't invited, but there's also nothing there they are missing out on.

The fine line of justice we balance on.

@Dantevortex @timlah Could this be summarised as "nazis are OK while they don't literally shoot people"?