waleyouBraving extreme brutality and a shut-down of virtually all communication, large anti-regime protests continue in Tehran, Saturday January 10
We should be careful about it. I think most people are protesting for valid reasons in Iran but there are definitely agitators working for israel and the usa that are doing violence just like the regime is also doing. I saw videos of attacking mosques
Nice excuse. Still prohibited under international laws. You could justify with the same rhetoric the regime attacking and killing iranians since the regime could simply claims that they was israeli agents. The video I saw also showed a kid in the entry of a mosque that was attacked
International law goes out the window during a revolution - and nowadays in most other situations too.
Bullshit. A country law is irrelevant during a revolution but not international laws. During a revolution attacking civilians places is still prohibited
Sure, it’s prohibited. But so what? That rule is worth as much as the paper it was written on when there’s no way of enforcing that rule. Will Bashar Al-Assad ever see any consequences for dropping barrel bombs on protest crowds and residential blocks? Will Putin ever see any consequences for invading Ukraine and butchering civilians on a daily basis, or Netanyahu for his killing spree in Gaza?
So people can kill other people and burn civilians infrastictirew because there is a revolution. You are just supporting terrorism simple and plain
Never said I supported any of it. I only said that it will happen, regardless of what idealists like yourself think about it. I’ve had time enough to learn that extraordinary circumstances will bring the worst out in people on both sides, and any international laws can easily be bent by the right people in exchange for future support/resources/fealty. Any world leader gives exactly zero shits about someone else’s country until that country is either a threat to their own country or a potential massive boon. The age of rules-based order in the world has come to an end, and what we’re witnessing now are the super megapowers asserting themselves. It’s survival of the fittest now.
I told you that civilians infra was attacked with a kid inside and you told me laws do not exists during a revolution
Not that laws don’t exist. They’re just not enforced. Tunisians were incredibly fortunate to get through their revolution without further bloodshed, any other countries in the Arab spring were not. Have we seen any consequences from the international court towards any of the perpetrators of crimes against humanity in these conflicts? No. I’m on your side. Neither of us are supporting acts of terrorism. All I’m saying is that it will happen in these kinds of situations, and the world will do fuck all about it. Try not to see enemies when you’re in a discussion, I’m not your enemy
Tunisians was lucky because no foreign powers was involved. Israel is shamelessly saying it is involved right now causing caos which will just give the regime in Iran some excuses to justify arresting the real protesters who only want to live free and be financially safe.
How hard it is for you to simply say I support the revolution but do not support unjustifiable violence instead of the bullshot of all laws no longer existing?
I never justified anything, I simply said that the bastards doing such things don’t see consequences nowadays, which is to me an entirely valid statement. Instead of exploding in all directions and just coming across as another angry young man, how about trying to discuss the topic in a composed and adult manner?
Again I said that a mosque was attacked with kids in it and you claimed that it’s just the regime militants that was inside it and you claimed that no rules apply during a revolution .
When I heard bullshits like you spitted, of course I would be mad . I am a human being not a rock. You could have just said that you support the revolution and condemn unjustifiable attacks and I would have agreed with you 100%
Again I said that a mosque was attacked with kids in it and you claimed that it’s just the regime militants that was inside it
Hah! At what point did I say that? You claim to be for democracy and freedom, yet you tell anyone you believe are disagreeing with you to shut up and launch personal attacks against them laden with falsehood. A cornerstone of democracy is free speech and open discourse. If you can’t handle that, get off the stage.
First I will apology to associate some comments that was made by someone else to you.
You said so what to me saying protestors should not attack civilians infrastructures and civilians under international laws. The same international laws that allow protestors to self defense if they are attacked by the regime and supporting the protestors right to revolt
Ah, the “so what” in that sentence might have been misunderstood. What I meant by that is that attacking civilians or civilian areas is prohibited in international law, but those prohibitions are generally disregarded both by the leaders violating international laws and most of the other leaders around them - that’s the big “so what”. It’s unethical, it’s illegal, it’s evil, but leaders of nations will still do it, because they know that most of the other nations’ leaders will look the other way. That’s what I mean by international law going out the window.
So what you mean is that international laws should be respected but unfortunately nobody respect them including violent protestors doing violence outside of the right of self defense?
That’s exactly what I mean. In good faith, those laws were passed over many decades, but they’re ignored on a daily basis. As I said; We’re on the same side