Ariadne Conill 🐰

Your irregular reminder that Alpine Linux DOES NOT have any Telegram channels and any community use of the Alpine marks in a way which indicates an official relationship with or endorsement by the project is forbidden by our Code of Conduct.

Unfortunately, it is hard to get Telegram to do anything about this. We have been trying for years.

Jan 9 at 7:46pmWeb
Show threadAriadne Conill 🐰Jan 9

hey @dpk can you do something about this?

https://codeberg.org/alpine

It is the same person who is impersonating Alpine on Telegram.

https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/council/-/issues/699 for more details

edit: @dpk has done something about this. thanks for the swift response!

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Show thread"Musty Bits" McGeeJan 9
@ariadne not that you needed more woes but someone is using alpine on docker hub also https://hub.docker.com/u/alpine
Bill Wang

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Show threadMegabot#33  Jan 9
They are using official Alpine images from Docker Hub (https://hub.docker.com/_/alpine) under the hood and seem to be focused on tools mostly?

@arichtman @ariadne
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Show thread"Musty Bits" McGeeJan 9
@pj @ariadne yea it's not an impersonation thing and it is technically a user not the Alpine org. Was just sharing in case.
Show threadDaphne Preston-KendalJan 9

@ariadne I’ll ask the moderation team to take action – thanks for letting us know.

I notice there’s also https://codeberg.org/alpinelinux, is that the same guy? Do you also want us to do something about that?

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Show threadAriadne Conill 🐰Jan 9
@dpk I do not think this one is related to mckaygerhard
Show threadMegabot#33  Jan 9
@ariadne @dpk iirc, that belongs to @fossdd ?
Show threadAriadne Conill 🐰Jan 9
@pj @dpk @fossdd I don't know, but if so then it is obviously OK.
Show threadMegabot#33  Jan 9
@ariadne @dpk or it could be f_, I remember I pinged someone in alpine spaces about it and it's non-malicious
Show threadAriadne Conill 🐰Jan 9
@pj @dpk yes, just a mirror of aports. nothing wrong with that.
Show threadMegabot#33  Jan 9

@ariadne @dpk

685-2025-06-27 12:39:51 <pj> is aports mirror on codeberg anyhow legitimate? 686:2025-06-27 12:40:38 <pj> https://codeberg.org/alpinemirrorbot?tab=activity 687-2025-06-27 13:02:04 <fossdd> oh thats mine lol 688-2025-06-27 13:02:12 <fossdd> i dont even remember what i was using it for 689-2025-06-27 13:02:20 <fossdd> i guess i can remove it and stop abusing codebergs resources
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Show threadAriadne Conill 🐰Jan 9
@pj @dpk (my point is that it's not in scope of the actions desired in council#669, which is to degrade gerhard mckay's ability to impersonate the project)
Show threadMegabot#33  Jan 9
i know, just giving receipts so I'm not a single point failure in information since it's not easy to find 

@ariadne @dpk
Show threadAriadne Conill 🐰Jan 9
It seems that Telegram has a new impersonation reporting flow, maybe that will get us some traction...
Show threadClaytonJan 9
@ariadne who is creating these channels??
Show threadAriadne Conill 🐰Jan 9
@craftyguy piccoro/mckaygerhard, who is the same person who kept publishing disinformation in Alpine wiki. he has been banned from the project for some time
Show threadDemi Marie ObenourJan 9
@ariadne Does Alpine have a trademark? If so, could a trademark infringement case be made?
Show threadAriadne Conill 🐰Jan 9

@alwayscurious trademark law is complicated: there are implicit marks, and registered marks.

implicit marks are automatic, so yes, alpine has an implicit trademark based on the fact that it has been operating with the marks since 2006.

you are asking about registered marks, however. at this time, alpine does not have a registration anywhere for the marks.

i have proposed using some of the alpine collective money to register the marks, but that would only impact the scope of legal damages that could be awarded to the project: gerhard is already breaking the law by impersonating the project regardless.

unfortunately, it does not matter if we get triple damages or not, as my understanding is that gerhard does not have any resources that could be used to pay them.

we just want him to stop using the alpine name and marks as part of his alt-right advocacy.

Show threadDemi Marie ObenourJan 9
@ariadne Is Telegram breaking the law by not stopping him?
Show threadAriadne Conill 🐰Jan 9
@alwayscurious Telegram's position is that they will only take down content if ordered by a court to do so.
Show threadDemi Marie ObenourJan 9
@ariadne Could such an order be obtained?
Show threadAriadne Conill 🐰Jan 9
@alwayscurious yes, but it would likely be expensive to obtain.
Show threadDemi Marie ObenourJan 9
@ariadne alternatively, this seems like a case where the main goal would be injunctive relief, rather than damages
Show threadAriadne Conill 🐰Jan 9
@alwayscurious yes, but the problem is that gerhard lives in a failed state where we would not be able to bring an action anyway.
Show threadDemi Marie ObenourJan 9
@ariadne Ah, so the only possible legal action would be against Telegram itself, if Telegram is violating the law in some way.
Show threadachillJan 9
@alwayscurious @ariadne unfortunatley no :(