It's middle school in the 90s or 80s and it's PIZZA DAY. Yay!

One of the square slices behind the counter has a bubble. The dough has somehow acquired an air pocket. It's huge. The size of a tennis ball.

Everyone is talking about "The Bubble"

How do you feel about the bubble?

Whoever gets the bubble is SO lucky
34.4%
I hope I don't get the bubble, gross!
15.7%
I am so confused what are you talking about
6.5%
PIZZA DAY!
43.4%
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@futurebird pizza day? WWTF?? why did I never get pizza at school in the 1980s or 1990s?

@llewelly @futurebird

Ok so picture this, there is pizza day, but your parents only let you bring a sack lunch.

(I actually didn’t like pizza, but it was sad for kids who did like pizza and had to eat a sack lunch…I just realized this is probably why me and my misfit of sack lunch eating friends tended to eat anywhere other than the cafeteria)

@MCDuncanLab @llewelly

This surfaced forgotten memories. I was fascinated by the concept of "bagged lunch" begged my mom to let me have a bagged lunch. (I thought it was very exotic like in an anime)

My mom was so confused and annoyed to her "bag lunch" was for "poor kids" and she didn't work in the math mines all day to have her daughter eating out of a paper bag.

Also since she was a math prof she had no time to make a lunch ... and tried to get Dad to do it who was baffled.

@MCDuncanLab @llewelly

It quickly came to: "if you really want to have a bagged lunch you need to make it yourself."

I was excited to try!
It was a disaster!

I think I gave up after a few months. But the strange little plastic containers and boxes I found hung around in the kitchen for years.

Later I was obsessed with a "factory lunch" and using the old lunch pail that belonged to my grandfather when he worked in the mills.

That went a bit better.

@futurebird @MCDuncanLab
I often made my own sack lunch when I was a child, and in those days my dream sack lunch went something like this: thick slice bread, preferably from the end of the loaf so it's tough, thick slice cheese, thick slice tomato, fried egg, 2nd thick slice cheese, 2nd thick slice bread, again preferably from the end of the loaf, thermos of tomato juice. But I think I only got to make that twice, and ended up leaving out ingredients and substituting practically every time.

@llewelly @MCDuncanLab

That sounds much more responsible. I didn't really have a planning skills to pack a lunch so I'd just... find things in the house, and around the house and put them in the box to figure out later.

@futurebird @llewelly

My older sister was a pain in the butt, at one point maybe when she was in 2nd grade she pitched a fit about what my mom made. Mom said fine 2nd graders make their own lunches. When I hit second grade that meant me too.

I ate peanut butter and butter sandwiches every day probably until 6th grade.

We also got a gross red delicious apple, and two chocolate cookies, which my sister was in charge of making, and I did get a milk card.

@MCDuncanLab @futurebird @llewelly

Nuts are no longer allowed in school.

@ned @futurebird @llewelly

I think they allow sunflower butter.

Plus im pretty sure making a 2nd grader make their own lunch is a no no these days.

Cookies are probably also banned.

@MCDuncanLab @ned @llewelly

Most schools I've encountered will have a strict nut and/or peanut ban if there are YOUNG kids with those allergies. And it's sensible.

There is no reason to have a ban if that isn't the case. The other case may be high sensitivity students ... then the ban may last longer.

Hilariously I'm deadly allergic to sunflowers and sunbutter. Eyes itch if I'm near it... but not peanuts.

@MCDuncanLab @llewelly

I had the vague notion that a lunch should have such things. But I would end up with a can of creamed corn, a can opener, candied ginger from the back of the kitchen cabinet, a pack of hot chocolate, a thermos of water too cold by lunch to make the coco, a slice of white bread with thick slices of cucumber on it (since I read about "cucumber sandwiches" in a book but didn't know how to make them.)

I had this idea that it was a "fancy lunch"

It was awful.

@MCDuncanLab @llewelly

At least it amused my friends to watch me unpack the box (which I pretended someone else made for me) and explain how it was going to work.

@futurebird oh no help this must have been excruciating in practice but it's so adorable in hindsight 😭

@Sharksonaplane

I can still taste that dry chewy horrible "cucumber sandwich"

🤣

@futurebird I have to know, did you give up on the "cucumber sandwich" after you tried it, or did you finish it determinedly while telling your friends you were in fact being FANCY and they just didn't get it?

i'm pretty sure I know what small me would've done and it would not have been the wiser choice, lmao

@Sharksonaplane

Chewing and chewing with watering eyes "they serve these at country clubs, you know? you have to cut the crusts off..."

*chew chew chew*

Just thick chunks of cucumber with the skin on and nothing else but the wonder bread.

@futurebird "you know it's FANCY because it's cut in TRIANGLES, *Diane*!"
@futurebird I really thought for a second this was Yeats parody

@futurebird @Sharksonaplane
Cucumber sandwiches are so good with cream cheese.

My mom would sneak Gerber baby plums in my lunch in a yogurt tub or something. It was like applesauce but with plums. So good but I was embarrassed to let my friends know it was baby food 😄

I had a metal lunch box in plaid that I loved. The latch broke and I had to hold it closed. I don't remember the metal ones being very well made.

Pizza day always included corn and chocolate pudding, too. Always.

@Sharksonaplane

This is why I have soft spot for strange somewhat hard headed kids. TBH.

@futurebird @MCDuncanLab @llewelly Once I hit fourth grade I was responsible for my own lunch.

Things I learned:

You can generally substitute cream cheese for mayo in sandwiches as a bread spread and it's often better.

A sandwich consisting entirely of bread and mayo is not good.

This started because one day I was having trouble finding ingredients and decided to try a sandwich containing only white ingredients: white bread, mayo, and cream cheese. Do not recommend.

A "c" sandwich containing cucumber and cream cheese, on the other hand, is really good.

@robotistry @futurebird @llewelly

In high school, I made some of the most amazing lunch sandwiches (kind of guided by my mom). One of my favorites was pita, cream cheese, sliced black olives, cucumbers (peeled and sliced futurebird), and roasted red peppers.

Gosh, it was so good. I bet it's amazing with home grown peppers and cucumbers. I should definitely try it this summer when the garden is in full swing.

@robotistry @futurebird @llewelly

By the time I got to high school, my parents were much better off so we had all those high-end ingredients. Well, I think they are high end, even if the black olives and roasted peppers came giant can or jars from costco that we *had* to eat once we opened it

@MCDuncanLab @futurebird @llewelly Requesting comment from older sister.

@jgordon @futurebird @llewelly

Yeah neither her nor my mom are reliable witnesses when recalling which of them caused what family drama.

I’m sure there was an incident probably standard stubborn kid stuff, mom over reacted, sis over reacted and as a consequence my brother and I are making the only sandwiches 2nd graders can make somewhat reliably.

Although it is something of an art to get peanut butter on bread without tearing the bread, as I recall.

@jgordon @futurebird @llewelly

And why was it peanut butter and butter?

Could we not afford jelly? Was jelly too high in sugar?

We must have gone through so much butter because we all totally slathered it on.

Oh shoot it wasn’t even butter, i just remembered it was margarine. Was that cheap in the 80s?

@MCDuncanLab @jgordon @llewelly

"fruit preserves have too much sugar ... yes butter is much healthier?"

I mean, it's good I guess.

@futurebird @jgordon @llewelly

The goal was to make the ‘butter’ layer the same thickness as the peanut butter layer, so probably at least two tbps of both.

I was rail thin as a kid so it couldn’t have been too terrible of a diet.

@futurebird @MCDuncanLab @jgordon
my mother regularly made fruit preserves with 1/4 the normal sugar, so ...

... mold grew on it. Because, actually, the whole point of using so much sugar is to preserve the fruit!!!

@futurebird @jgordon @llewelly

I realize I totally hijjaked your thread with sandwiches. I’m sorry. 🥺

@MCDuncanLab @jgordon @llewelly

I'm learning so many things, and remembering others.

@MCDuncanLab @jgordon @futurebird
I grew up in the 1980s in a household that used a ton of margarine, and a little butter, and from memory, the margarine was typically less than 1/4 the price of butter. And back then I think the margarine was still made from murdered whales. Eventually Star Trek 4 and preceeding whale conservation movements changed all that, but there was a lag.

@llewelly @jgordon @futurebird

Seriously? I thought it was chemically modified vegetable oils.

Nah I just looked it up, they stopped using whale oil shortly after wwii at least in the us.

@MCDuncanLab @jgordon @futurebird oh! Well thank you for looking it up.

@MCDuncanLab @llewelly @futurebird Phew! I was about to check …

Yes. We are a lot of margarine

@MCDuncanLab @llewelly @jgordon @futurebird

I'm just shocked to learn that they ever used whale oil! Ethics aside, I wouldn't expect that to be either cheap (compared to vegetable oil) or good for eating (compared to other uses).

@MCDuncanLab
Heh. Without recognizing it as drama my mother happily relates how the "kids make their own lunches" protocol happened in our family. Apparently when my elder sister was 6 she was taken to task for bringing her sandwiches home uneaten for a week. She countered with the sandwiches not being made the way she liked them (maybe it was margarine not butter?) and from that day on lunch making became the kid's job. Including our eldest sister, who was not involved in the exchange at all. When the younger siblings started school we got our lunches made for us for a week. I recall a lot of margarine and marmite sandwiches. On brown bread.
@jgordon @futurebird @llewelly

@RedRobyn @jgordon @futurebird @llewelly

Dang, your mom and mine were cut from the same cloth.

@MCDuncanLab
When I became vegetarian at 17 the response was "that's fine I like your cooking" ie she didn't intend to cook meatless meals for me, I'd just unwittingly volunteered to be the family cook.
@jgordon @futurebird @llewelly

@RedRobyn @MCDuncanLab @jgordon @llewelly

I remember doing "margarine and marmite" well... just marmite. But it was another attempt at "exotic food" no one in Ohio knows about marmite but my grandmother had some for some reason and let me take the jar.

I'd read about characters in some book eating "marmite on toast" so I brought that for lunch one day.

It was VERY sticky and got stuck in the little plastic sandwich bag. "This is what they eat in LONDON"

@futurebird
London marmite is very different from antipodean marmite. Ours is even more salty and dark, with less sugar
@MCDuncanLab @jgordon @llewelly
@MCDuncanLab @futurebird @llewelly there was nothing delicious about red delicious apples. They just had shelf life. That was the only fruit we had in winter.