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Hyprland Update

https://piefed.social/c/linuxmemes/p/1630407/hyprland-update

Jan 4 at 3:05pmWeb
Show threadstandarduserJan 4
I have noticed an issue with electron based apps directly from aur. Curious if anyone else had that
Show threadZangooseJan 4
I couldn’t have picked better timing to switch to niri if I tried.
Show threadsfxrlzJan 4
Same. love niri though. I think I’m going to keep it
Show threadcadekatJan 4
Niri gang represent!
Show threadneketos851Jan 4
tiktok window manager rise!
Show threadboringbisexualJan 4
There are dozens of us. I’ve been using niri for almost a year now and I think I would be lost if I switched to anything else.
Show threadZangooseJan 4
I don’t love the way niri handles workspaces across multiple monitors so far but my problems with it are also minor enough that I’m pretty sure I can fix it myself with a script or IPC program if it really starts to bother me
Show threadKSP AtlasJan 4
I switched to niri recently, I think it’s the best tiling window manager I’ve ever used
Show threadne0phyteJan 4

Yup. Been on Niri for a couple of months and it works very well and is super stable.

Niri seems to have a vision whereas Hyprland folks just seem to push as many features and changes as they can with little consideration.

Show threadZangooseJan 4
I used hyprland on my laptop for about a year and the thing that bothered me the most (aside from the toxic community) was how often I had to rewrite chunks of it after every major update. I’m definitely glad that the niri devs are treating its config stability more seriously.
Show threadTabbsTheBat (they/them)Jan 4
I’m so glad my hyprpand setup got nuked before this, so I didn’t have to deal with it /j
Show thread[object Object]Jan 4

I am out of the loop, what’s going on with hyperland?

Is this a continuation of the DHH issues?

Show threadTabbsTheBat (they/them)Jan 4
I assume it’s about hyprland changing the syntax for window rules like… 6 days ago
Show threadToasterBotnet - Productivity and MemesJan 4
Yes. It’s not even an inconvenience to update, but people with bloated third party dotfiles got blasted with a million error messages and are making confused reddit posts
Show threadJhexJan 4

indeed… I took what I learnt from someone’s dotfile project to build my own minimalist one… took me an afternoon to set up and everything has been rock solid since

not bad mouthing the dotfiles project I learnt from… they did great but I just did not need that much

Show threadCommunistJan 4
It was actually pretty inconvenient because I found the syntax for “anonymous rules” basically undocumented.
Show threadcygnusJan 4

Me using KDE Plasma because I prefer to work with my computer rather than work on my computer:

Show threadthe_qJan 4
Show threadPhoeniqzJan 4
These folks have a skill issue tho, haven’t touched my hyprland config in ages. Just don’t overcomplicate/bloat your config, it’s not that hard.
Show threadOrganicMustardJan 4
I had to change mine every few months because they keep deprecating stuff. Changed to Niri a week ago because I got dozens of config errors after an update.
Show threaddogs0nJan 5
Default configs are very great, but to be fair, a lot of people who use hyprland would be hardcore ricers, so I can see why deprecations would hit most advanced users quite hard.
Show threadcadekatJan 4

I caved and used KDE on my last install, and boy do I miss Gnome.

Not that KDE is bad, but Gnome is just so my style.

Show threadSkullgridJan 4

Not that KDE is bad, but Gnome is just so my style.

can’t you just customise KDE to just work like gnome?

Show threadcadekatJan 4
For the most part, yes, but as the commenter above put it so eloquently…
Show threadEldritchJan 4
Possible? Yes. Accomplishable, dunno. You can get very close visually etc. Far closer than making GNOME look like KDE. But I have a feeling that some of the panel meaning dropdowns etc would be the first places to falter. Though, maybe someone has fitting panel apps already.
Show threadPossibly linuxJan 4
Yes but it takes a lot of work
Show threadcaseyweedermanJan 5
There’s probably thirty Global Theme packs that do exactly that with a single click
Show threadrayJan 4
Couldn’t you just install Gnome now? Most distros have packages for Gnome and KDE, and there’s usually nothing stopping you from installing them both.
Show threadcadekatJan 4
I could, but I’ll probably stick with KDE until I reinstall. It ain’t broke, just not exactly what I want.
Show threadMuckyWafflesJan 6
I’m a gnome fan myself, though I’ve been using a lot of distros without systemd recently while gnome has started requiring it so I’m probably not going to be seeing gnome for a while.
Show threadcadekatJan 7
That’s interesting. I come from the Gentoo world, so Gnome without systemd isn’t too uncommon.
Show threadFlames5123Jan 5

I’m not sure what’s wrong with my config but almost every time I wake it from having the screens off (it doesn’t sleep because it’s my media PC too) plasma is just dead and may or may not boot up again. Running plasmashell —replace (or whatever the command is) doesn’t fix it every time.

I blame nvidia.

Show threaddogs0nJan 5

I blame nvidia too, this used to happen to me, but hasn’t so far since using hyprland, etc (maybe because hypridle isn’t so complicated when setup to use the basic commands for turning off screens/sleeping).

(I actually do sleep my machine)

Show threadbiloubaJan 5
If you get back to plasma, here is a solution: askubuntu.com/a/1559274/1866429
Plasma Desktop crashes after waking from sleep

I’m experiencing consistent crashes with KDE Plasma on my system whenever the computer wakes from sleep. The plasmashell process crashes, and attempting to restart it with the command plasmashell --

Ask Ubuntu
Show threadbiloubaJan 5

You need to pass an option to Nvidia in the grub launch commend that will keep the buffer or something.

askubuntu.com/a/1559274/1866429

Plasma Desktop crashes after waking from sleep

I’m experiencing consistent crashes with KDE Plasma on my system whenever the computer wakes from sleep. The plasmashell process crashes, and attempting to restart it with the command plasmashell --

Ask Ubuntu
Show threadFlames5123Jan 9

It’s been a few days and I tried this. Got a crash yesterday that still required a reboot. :/

I think it is happening less though. I’ll keep looking down this path as it could be the right direction, and it’s the first time I’ve heard of this, so thank you!

Show threadbiloubaJan 10
Your welcome, I don’t remember how I got this solution but it was very hard to find. Not the first place I would search. I thought it was a driver issue. Anyway, thanks for the feedback and good luck!
Show threadblinfabianJan 5
i use kde but i do like it heavily customised, im not going through 1000 config files to make it 1% smoother and to change the wallpaper tho
Show threadFeathercrownJan 5
The rare dounle ambiguity: “work on” and “work with” could both have two meanings with opposite effects in the sentence
Show threadsemJan 10
Show threadJhexJan 4
Hyprland here… just happy to be in the meme
Show threadteftJan 4
Are newbies really installing hyprland? I would think they’d stick with kde/gnome/cinnamon.
Show threadF04118FJan 4

In an ideal world.

But in our world, newbies are being recommended:

  • Distros based on ArchLinux, that ship breaking changes and expect users to read .pacnew config files and update their own config accordingly (CachyOS)
  • A bunch of shell scripts and Hyprland config masquerading as a distro, made by a white supremacist and used to promote their brand (Omarchy 🤮)
  • NixOS. I don’t even known where to begin with this one.

To be 100% clear, I use and like CachyOS and Nix (home manager). CachyOS and NixOS are great projects with good technical performance toward their respective goals (good defaults and performance on Arch, and declarative configuration, respectively), but they are not beginner friendly.

Show threadteftJan 4

Distros based on ArchLinux, that ship breaking changes and expect users to read .pacnew config files and update their own config accordingly (CachyOS)

You’re absolutely right. The other day I ran into a guy using arch who didn’t know what a tarball was or how to compile software. I was like ‘the fuck?’.

I should have thought of the newbies who just follow guides and might not know they’ve gotten in over their heads.

Show threadzebidiahJan 4

A bunch of shell scripts and Hyprland config masquerading as a distro, made by a white supremacist and used to promote their brand (Omarchy 🤮)

AntiX, fast, lightweight, and proudly anti-fascist…

Show threadchunkystylesJan 5
AntiX is nothing like Omarchy from my quick look at it. It’s Debian vs Arch (btw) and systemd-free.
Show threadZwiebelJan 4
Meanwhile my Fedora ass whos done nothing but run updates for like five years
Show threadDamageJan 5
I’m on Bazzite now, but I was on Fedora for a looong time and I even moved the same installation from one laptop to the next, just dd’d the drive, zero problems.
Show threadZozanoJan 4

In some ways I think NixOS is good for beginners. I started with Ubuntu, then Arch, then NixOS.

I managed to break Ubuntu and Arch in some really weird ways which made reinstalling my root directory easier than diagnosing the issues.

You cannot break NixOS unless you do some funky chroot shit or rebuild with temporary partitions.

This isn’t to suggest newbies should choose NixOS as a first distro, learning NixOS will give you a skill set which will not translate to knowledge about how other Linux OS’s work (because it breaks file system conventions).

However… If you know how to use NixOS, you’re living a post distro-hopping life, having ascended to godhood, and letting the Arch users know you use Nix BTW.

Show threadhighballJan 4
Yep, then they are going to complain and claim Linux isn’t ready for then entire computing industry; not even grandmas just using a web browser.
Show threadBubblebathJan 4

I am a newbie with hyprland. Got introduced to it with a bog video, and because it was keyboard only, it was a good fit for my dell nuggetbook with a poor trackpad. It isn’t my only machine, so I felt safe enough in doing so.

It has taken a bit of configuring the files, but I have really enjoyed the process of learning.

So for me it was a way of reviving a machine that was painful to use.

Also most rice I have seen are hyprland. Probably doesn’t help

Show threadLucidNightmareJan 5
Love some Bog. I wish more Linux enthusiasts would give him a watch, as he even makes me go WTF every now and then, and I’m just a noob myself!
Show threadHellieSkellieJan 4
Third top post of all time to r/r/unixporn is a slick hyprland + quickshell rice and they linked their dotfiles + configs. how is a brother to resist trying it?
Show threadteftJan 4
That’s how they get ya…
Show threadDeltaWingDragonJan 4

Meanwhile, desktop environment users:

Show threadEpheraJan 4
Yeah, have not heard about any of these problems before this post…
Show threadEyck_of_denesleJan 4
The linked converter fixed the deprecated config in a sec for me.
Show threadJakoJakoJako13Jan 4
I’ll take the Mango, thank you.
Show threadogeistJan 4
I switched to in in December and was nicely surprised. I also do like real Mangos.
Show threadJakoJakoJako13Jan 4
I switched around September. The learning curve is higher than Hyprland but not by much. Once you get used to switching layouts on the fly it really open up the workflow. Plus there’s no bullshit. I don’t know any of the devs. There’s no controversy. It’s just a window manager. It’s the closest thing to the pure bliss of BSPWM Wayland has.