@damonism wholesale prices during the day regularly go into the negative so if retailers can convince you to use more energy in the day and less in peak (when they might lose on every kWh you buy from them) they make more money. We’re a bit different in vic but some retailers give 3-4 hrs free every single day and DMO regions are getting 3 hrs legislated from mid-26. Have a look at https://www.energymadeeasy.gov.au to compare plans