I don't like patriotism; I think it's arbitrary to be proud of a country, and I think it's a pretty slippery funnel into nationalism. Flag-waving feels fascist to me.

But it turns out that politicians who preach real multiculturalism and inclusive care for the vulnerable do, in fact, make me feel patriotic. So maybe it's that I've rarely found anything to feel proud of.

@ben pride in the nation (or its potential) is arguably a pre-requisite for any sustained effort to improve it. Something I wander back and forth on.

@ben There's nothing wrong with being proud of your country for the good things it has done. There's everything wrong with ignoring, in the name of "patriotism", the bad things your country has done.

As Carl Schurz, the nation's first German American Senator (R-MO) once said on the floor of the Senate, on 29 February 1872:

"My country; and my country is the great American Republic. My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right."

American Rhetoric: Michael Bloomberg - Governors Island Speech on Religious Tolerance

@ben Local patriotism is much better here. Patriotism in your town, county or city is significantly less likely to lead to nationalism.