not_IODec 29

technical debt

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/36304697

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Show threadIcyToesDec 29

This why any good engineer would bake it into their estimates when working around the area. I think Martin Fowler covers this in Refactoring.

A good civil engineer doesn’t ask a Project Manager if they can add in structural supports. A good software engineer shouldn’t ask to build things right.

Show threadbitjunkieDec 29
Counterpoint: tHe ShArEhOlDeRs SaY jUsT sHiP iT
Show threadcaptainlezbian
Yeah ultimately CivEs get to withhold a signature and if they don’t sign it’s illegal to build. Software doesn’t need a PE
Dec 29 at 9:34pmWeb
Show threadEranzielDec 30

I’ve always been uncomfortable, honestly, with calling software developers “engineers”. Partly that’s because it’s actually illegal to call a non-PEng role an “engineer” in some jurisdictions (most of Canada), but I think this comment is an excellent point of distinction to make between PEng and other roles.

Legal responsibility along with regulatory requirements. There’s a reason everyone* trusts elevators and airplanes but shouldn’t trust most software.

Show threadArckaDec 31
Is it that universal though? I know it was 40 years ago now, but when management overrode engineers to sign off on the disastrous launch of the Space Shuttle Challenger, I don’t think they faced any legal consequences.