This is your city on driverless cars.

A blackout in San Francisco yesterday cut power to traffic lights. Drivers coped; Waymos just stopped moving, often in intersections, stranding passengers and compounding gridlock.

https://sfstandard.com/2025/12/20/waymo-sf-blackout-robotaxi-traffic-jams/

Maybe allowing a private company to flood public space with a massive fleet of unmanned vehicles isn't great transportation policy. (Especially when shit happens. And shit *always* happens.)
On the other hand, we could just let the "disruptors" do exactly what they want. That usually works out fine.

The fact that driverless cars kill + injure fewer people than conventional cars is a genuine plus.

It doesn't outweigh minus of private companies flooding public streets with constantly cruising vehicles that periodically cause gridlock, chaos.

Here's one Waymo messing up dozens of people's day.

There should be zero tolerance for interfering with public transport like this. Any sane community would recognize this as indefensible.

@straphanger pretty sure that's just a marketing lie too (that they kill/injure less people)

@Ember Pretty sure you actually have no idea. Anyway, here's one credible piece about it:

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/autonomous-vehicle-safety-statistics.html

That's from nearly two years ago now, and we now know that Tesla data should not be included in such studies, because that company's testimony is either untrustworthy or unreliable. (Big surprise, I know.)

How safe are autonomous vehicles? 2025

Autonomous vehicles could provide a safer alternative to error-prone human drivers, potentially saving lives on America’s lethal roadways.

ConsumerAffairs