pyrinixWhat do you honestly hate about work itself?
What do you honestly hate about work itself?
Sounds like it’s time to go “below & within” for your employer
I love what i do and the kids and people that i work with. Administration is incompetent and has become more and more micromanaging because they don’t understand that they’re the problem. I’ve been out since October, going back in Feb, will probably quit in may at the end of the school year and do something different.
BurgerBaronI honestly hate work itself, I’m not doing what I want if I’m working. There is no job I want.
BhaelfurI tell this to people and they simply do not understand. “What if you found something you like doing, then it’s not really work!” It’s still working. I will not enjoy it. I would rather have the freedom to choose what I’m doing at any particular time. People just cannot grasp that idea. But I also may not be explaining myself well, such is life.
PrimeErectivePeople are brainwashed to believe that their value is tied to their productivity
FlaxWhat is your hobby? I turned my hobby (web design) into a business in 2004 while in college because I had the same mentality you posted.
In the winter especially, you go to work in the dark. Spend all day indoors with no windows while the sun is out. And then drive home in the dark to a dark house.
You get so depressed and lose motivation. And what did you gain? Less money than last year.
I’m lucky to have a job I actually enjoy doing.
What I hate is I live in a place where winter can be significant, such as a stretch of two weeks last year when we had -20 to -40 degree temperatures, and I was still expected to take public trans and walk to and from work on our in-office days.
Dealing with uncooperative people. Most work related stress comes from other people.
People who don’t communicate what they want but it needs to be done. People who don’t listen unless it’s coming from themselves. Or people who are simply too incompetent for their job.
None of the things you mention has anything to do with the job itself. How you show up and when is what matters.
There’s a lot of mythology around work that is just no longer true and hasn’t been true since the 1990s, if not the 1980s.
The only time your boss cares about you going “above and beyond” is in situations where it will make them look good to their boss. Don’t waste your energy going above and beyond just randomly. It won’t get noticed and it’ll only burn you out.
Making providing quality customer service is never wasted effort, but it doesn’t mean putting up with entitled customers. If people aren’t interacting with you at least calmly, don’t waste the energy engaging. Don’t engage with adults having tantrums.
Most importantly - don’t dilute your wage. If you’re hourly, be meticulous about clock-in and clock-out times. Don’t do work unless you’re on the clock. If you’re salary, that means you give what you have; it doesn’t mean you kill yourself for the job. If I’m sick, my salary pays for the ~30% effort that I’ve got to give. Trying to give 100% when you don’t have it is a great way to burn yourself out and gain nothing in return. If you’re good at something other people value, never ever do it for free. All people will do is take advantage.
Most household chores that actually need to be done boil down to a handful of things that need daily attention and can be done in 15 minutes or less, the weekly crap that takes 30 minutes or less once a week, and then monthly and quarterly maintenance cycles. If you’re spending more than ~30 min. a day, plus ~1 hour on the weekends doing choring, you’re probably wasting your energy on things that don’t truly matter. You can scale back and not worry so much about keeping your space ready for a Martha Stewart catalog. Focus on what’s truly essential and let the rest slide.
So it takes about 30 minutes just to clean the bathroom. For me, that's dusting top to bottom so the cobwebs and dust don't build up and baseboards and light fixtures only need to be better cleaned a few times a year; cleaning the sink and cabinets, toilet inside and out, tub inside and out, shower walls, soap dishes/dispensers, tp holder, vacuuming and mopping. My bathroom isn't that big either. Then there's the bedroom, laundry room, hallways, living room and kitchen. That's not counting laundry or cleaning the kitchen after meals. Can you please share how you do everything in 30 minutes a week?
The way that I read the person whose comment you’re replying to you clean the bathroom in 30 min weekly that’s one weeknight clean or half your weekend cleans.
I don’t think they are saying 30 min a week, but 30 min weekly tasks over multiple days (I calculate about 4 hours per week which is close to my “maintenance” cleaning)
That’s the trick - I don’t do everything. It just isn’t physically possible. So, I don’t kill myself trying.
For a full bathroom (sink, toilet, tub and shower), I prioritize the stuff that matters most - toilet and sink. Cleaning those takes me 10 minutes, tops. Those are what stays clean on a day to day basis. Everything else gets dealt with weekly (sweeping, trash), monthly (tub, shower) or less frequently.
The lie Americans have told themselves is that it is possible for a family of 2-4 to perform a ridiculous number of tasks to live in 4-star hotel conditions their entire adult lives. It’s a fantasy that has people killing themselves to dust corners of their homes that literally nobody sees our cares about.
You’ve got better things to do with your time than dusting. Like resting from your day job.
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northernlightsHow to get a promotion you’re supposed to first go out of your way to do extra work they should hire for for no additional pay. I tried it at 2 jobs, both times I ended up doing the extra work for no pay for years before I left.
That strategy is valid but doesn’t work for most, because it assumes (1) a relatively high comfort level with selling your own skills, and (2) enough knowledge of local talent / labor market to realize what you can ask for. That’s a skill set you’d expect from an experienced consultant, not the average W2 employee, and if you swing and miss, or fail to swing at all, many struggle to pump the brakes and end up shouldering the additional responsibility without additional compensation.
Hence the common rule of beginning the hunt for your next job right away if you desire growth. Your manager probably won’t just promote you, so you have to promote yourself.
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Gordon CalhounDon’t worry protoserf, feudal times are making a comeback.
whelkI really struggle with work that doesn’t feel meaningful. It’d be nice to feel like I was contributing something meaningful to my community. My favorite jobs were working for school districts. Not teaching, but just being a part of that overall system felt so satisfying.
Same, worked for a nonprofit for 7 of my 12 adult years that rented space to 2 schools (small high school and a daycare/preschool) within their buildings and we had our own services after session. Wasn’t directly involved with the teaching for the schools but did maintain all the computers for students and teachers while having a small program training a couple of the teens to manage a repair shop fixing those computers. That provided more satisfaction than any other job since, even though I will still hate Roblox with a passion on how much like a virus it acts to whatever it gets installed to, I’d do it again if the opportunity was open, but it was a unique deal between the three.
What you said + the fact that we often end up managed by people who haven’t worked in the area/industry they’re managing.
That it feels entitled to follow me everywhere I go, especially my home.
gandalf_der_12teThe feeling that most of my superiors are idiots. In a lot of cases, i actually do know things better than them, but i can’t say it, because “you can’t contradict your superiors” or sth.
djdarrenIt’s the feeling that ultimately what I do is meaningless.
Thing is, I work in quality management and health and safety. From a manufacturing perspective what I do is about as mwaningful as it gets. I’m one of the people who makes sure that no one gets hurt! Trouble is, most people in the company seem to have offloaded their responsibility to our office, regardless of how often we tell them that isn’t true.
It should be trivial to roll out a new measure that will ensure a reduction in incidents and accidents, but that measure is only useful while the folks on the shop floor actually pay attention. And they don’t. Not until someone gets hurt, at which point we get asked why we aren’t doing more to ensure things like that don’t happen.
It’s demoralising
Exactly what you said. My wife has health issues and can’t do housework, so it all falls on me. I just didn’t have time. The kitchen was disastrous. I just retired, and after the holidays, things are going to change.
Mugita SokioWork is just nothing more than being a meaningless cog in a machine designed for mediocrity. The system wants you mediocre so you can be controlled, through religion, economics, or politics.
My producer and I have been doing what we were meant to do for a few years, and it doesn’t require even leaving our homes at all.
It doesn’t create value or benefit anyone. Just outright performative nonsense. I just want to contribute something. Fuck me, right?
Also, I just don’t want to work period. I’ve hated every job I’ve ever had.
BoozillaI remember an electrician lecturing me about how a desk job is not real work. I have nothing but respect for blue collar jobs. But fuck that particular guy. If he knew how intensely boring, complicated, and time sensitive some knowledge work is, he’d STFU. I never hired him again, found a much better electrician.
Who does he think designs all the shit that he works on?
I do desk work for a company that mostly does manufacturing, and I’ve had a few of the workshop guys come into the office, take one look at my screen, and tell me they’d never be able to do my job. I usually tell them I probably couldn’t do their job either so we’re even
I was a welder who was promoted up to quality manager, and I can tell you that while my current role is nowhere near as physically demanding, it is absolutely harder.
Perhaps it’s my ADHD, perhaps it’s because I’ve never really been trained for office work, but the thing I struggle with most is prioritising tasks, making sure I’m doing enough of all the things required of me. I never had to do that before. My foreman would assign me tasks, I’d do the tasks. Easy. Also, my current role intersects heavily with health and safety legislation, so I’ve had to study for (and pass) a NEBOSH qualification. I never failed a welding test, but I had to resit the NEBOSH.
I could be a professional gamer, but doing it for 40 hours a week every week, would get tiring.
It’s the monotony that kills me in ANYTHING I do. I don’t know if it’s the ADHD in me or what, but I love variety. My job is painfully easy, but my god, it is such a drain to do the same thing day in and day out.
I love the job I do. I hate the struggle to make enough to be comfortable. Like the pay is always $12,000 lower than where it needs to be at in order to not struggle at all, and it always limits what I can afford to do when I’m not at work. I haven’t taken a proper and real out of state vacation in a decade and drive a 19 year old car.
I don't hate work itself. I hate companies and the system that forces me to work a job I don't give a fuck about.
I don't have the resources nor opportunities to just work on something I love until it can maybe make some money. Unfortunately, that's reserved to the wealthy or the lucky. I've been working in private on many things that don't earn money. Maybe what I'm working on is shit. Maybe what I'm working on doesn't matter. Maybe it never can be profitable. But I can't throw everything away and just dedicate hundreds or thousands of hours to it like some lucky few can.
This is why UBI will always have my support. It's my firm belief that anti-UBI people are actually afraid of the competition is would cause. Imagine if instead of 100 people having the time and resources to compete with you, there'd be thousands, maybe even millions. Imagine suddenly thousands of people actually digging into politics and deciding they want to give it a shot. Imagine thousands deciding they wanted to do their hobby fulltime and give it a shot at becoming something. Woodworking, climbing, athletics, journalism, gaming, content creation, mechanics...
There'd be a flurry of activity.
The well paying jobs that don’t have massive amounts of overtime are 8-5.
I am not a morning person. Ever since starting an office job where I have to get up at 6 a.m. to get the kiddo to school so I can make it to work by 8:00 has been a continuously escalating level of exhaustion because it doesn’t matter how much sleep I get, it is when.
It is less bad during the summer on the days I get to work from home as I can at least sleep till 7:30 or so. If I could just work 10-6 with no lunch I would never be tired again, but too many people in leadership positions see rising early as a virtue because that is what they were always told or they happen to be morning people.
No, don’t tell me I have a sleeping disorder or I just need to work on going to bed early unless you tell people who wake up early that they should just sleep in. Different people have different sleep schedules and it only looks like a disorder because of social expectations.
I fully agree with you and I am a morning person. I don’t understand why in an increasingly distributed world why you can’t just have bands of start times. It’s better for productivity, better for distributed relations, heck probably even better for traffic confusing.
They want everyone in the office for the same hours so we can collaborate. But we don’t need to collaborate for 8 hours a day and it is perfectly fine for people to come in at 7 and leave by 3:30, and hour and a half early, because of the stupid early to rise bullshit. But fuck me for asking if I could do the opposite when my kiddo is done with school and come in at 9:30 to 6 (half hour lunch required) because that would be too late in the morning.
It is all stupid.
I hate the ignorant corporate beauracracy. So fucking much waste because no one cares about or needs to do an actual good job. They can do at best an adequate job and skate by unscathed. Often times they can do a shitty job and as long as they weren’t the worst no one cares. Suggesting fixes or ways to better horrifically outdated systems are basically ignored. The people it would help don’t matter to the decision makers because it doesn’t directly help the decision makers. Fuck morale. The boss only cares about specific items they are graded on.
Many times the people who would make the best decisions are not authorized to make decisions.
Should we go into the office every day? Well the workers say no, objective productivity measurements say no, the environment says no, but some insipid sack of shit feels like it’s better.
Should we spend twenty minutes improving this process? No, some higher up who doesn’t understand software development decided that we don’t do it that way. Keep doing it manually.
Should we compensate people well enough so they don’t leave after a year or two? No, pay the absolute minimum and keep hiring entry level people. Saving so much on labor costs!
tomiantThat we are contributing to a dehumanizing system with no purpose other than propping up inequality and injustice and constantly generating more power for psychopaths to misuse to spread war and terror and destroy the planet and every living thing on it.
Yikes! I wouldn’t want to work at your company!
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•When you have your way that works for you to accomplish something that somebody else does differently, and they insist on you doing things their way even though the end result would be the same regardless of which way you did it.
There are definitely times when there is a legit right way to do something vs a wrong way, but there are also definitely times when control freaks insist on just adding unnecessary time and work to what you’re already doing. For example,
•Having to sit in one uncomfortable spot, surrounded by other people and distractions to work on something that can 100% done on a laptop at home.
🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 When management/HR treats the employees like children in kindergarten with condescening words and tone of voice, playing stupid games to force getting to know co-workers, and generally having an “I am better than all of you” attitude.
Being forced to stand on jobs where you’re just doing a repetitive task that doesn’t require moving around. Guarding a single door, cashier in a shop, QA inspector on a assembly line, etc. No god damn reason these should require being on your feet 8-12+ hours.
Physical labor in general. Shit hurts.
I enjoy my job and would do it even if I didn’t financially need to.
BoxOfFeetOur Thanksgiving prime rib was over-done. We’ve been a bit slow lately, and so I’ve had to take more vacation time. Or, sit at my desk and do nothing. We don’t get as much free company apparel as my last job. There, we got Carhartts, Nike quarter zips, Weatherproof jackets, coolers… that was pretty nice.
Oh, and the main thing is the customers. I wish the program managers could do all the interacting with them so I would never have to talk to them.
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I Cast FistDaily commute. Fuck cars and fuck city planning around cars. I stay in a box for 1 hour so I can work in a box, so I can stay in a box for another hour until I can finally get back to my box
I don’t hate the hours, but I hate the constant process of it all. That we are expected to be at the computer about 8 hours every day, even if it’s clear that our efficiency has dwindled.
And I’m in a lucky enough situation, that I wouldn’t even really have to do this. I could easily take a few days off sometimes, but I just … won’t until it’s actual vacation time. So after the vacation ends, I end up working efficiently for a month, so-and-so for 3 months, then absolutely shitty for a month and then it’s vacation again.
depending on it for survival