Cassandra is only carbon nowDec 21
"Ethical AI exists" is very much so "obeying in advance."
Show threadCassandra is only carbon nowDec 21

I'm not a huge fan of "don't obey in advance," as it implies that there is a correct and useful point at which one should obey fascists. "Fuck you, make me" or even just "fuck you" work much better.

But goddamn it, "ethical AI" *is* obedience. It is acquiescence. It's the narrative refuge of quisling appeasers. It is an absolutely *vapid* intellectual stance that does nothing but muddies the waters when it comes to the fascist project of enclosing culture with AI.

Show threadCassandra is only carbon nowDec 21
Reasonable person: AI is bad and here's why.
Professional sealions: But wait, ETHICAL AI.
Show threadCassandra is only carbon nowDec 21

I don't say this kind of thing often, but I'm going to ask for a favor here in a pretty rude way.

If you feel compelled to tell anyone about "ethical AI" or to start soapboxing about "AI ethics," please please please shut the fuck up. Just, seriously. If you aren't going to help, at least don't jump in and start causing even more problems.

Show threadCassandra is only carbon nowDec 21
This isn't about any one person or any group of people, it's just this whole bullshit argument that I keep seeing over. and over. and over again. You just don't gotta do that shit. You don't have to make excuses for AI that way.
Show threadCassandra is only carbon now

Gonna end the thread by admitting, as ever, that I'm just one woman out here on Satan's own internet. I can be wrong. If you think I'm wrong, and you really need to get that off your chest, at fucking *least* show up with something that hasn't been said a thousand times before. I promise, I'm terminally online. I've seen all the typical "ethical AI" arguments before.

Maybe bring some evidence with you. For a lark.

Dec 21 at 3:26amWeb
Show threadJo - pièce de résistanceDec 21
@xgranade
I do see uses for it that would be ethical, but not profitable. And unless they can be extremely profitable with it constantly, it won’t be maintained. So at this point in time, with all we are facing, and no sustainable infrastructure to support all the water, energy, planet, climate, & people that will be harmed, I see no way it can be ethical at this time, weighing all the costs.
It’s grossly premature to market.
Show threadKrzysztof SakrejdaDec 21

@xgranade ethical AI is actually just sparkling carefully applied machine learning

The whole point of the AI salescon was to make people accept under developed poorly tested machine learning models in deployment by borrowing from fictional future credibility. All the while they cast standard human and statistical systems as fundamentally stagnant and immutable. It's an obvious con job.