surely your hobby can't be that expensive

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there has to be a list of hobbies one can try that cost practically nothing:

Solving Rubik cubes (a high quality speedcube is about 20$)

Crocheting/stitching (needles and yarn after cheap)

Writing (free)

programming

… (please expand if you have any ideas)

Software development is free if you already have a computer
Not no-cost but cooking, gotta feed yourself anyway might as well have fun with it
Cooking is cost negative relative to eating out. You just need a decent kitchen and plenty of free time

Hiking? I mean, the world is just out there.

Other outside activities that need minimal equipment come to mind. You ever played discgolf? Or went running? Or geocaching?

But yeah, lots of activities aren’t expensive. Draw something. Paint something. Sing! Or do some sports! Yoga only requires a mat if you do it naked.

although the entry bar is theoretically non existent. practically? not really.
How so?

I agree that in some conditions, entry is practically free. Assuming you have comfortable walking shoes and a backpack and assuming you leave near some trails.

Otherwise shoes and basic equipment for jut getting into it might cost a few 100$. not expensive, but I would not say free entry.

I hike in sandals I got for $11 on rollback at Walmart. I don’t think most people need a backpack for hikes that are going to be a few hours at most. Bring a granola bar in your pocket if you really need food. Most people have some sort of bag that can carry things, it doesn’t have to be a backpack.

oh, I used to do a lot of hiking.

Didn’t consider a short hour long walk a hike.

I guess those ones do practically have no entry bar. given that everyone already likely has clothes capable of handling that.

Crocheting/knitting is cheap to try out but once you really get into it (and start worrying about yarn quality and so on), the money pit opens.
ok but that’s in you for getting expensive yarn.

Nah, honestly anything better than the bottom-of-the-barrel acrylics is going to add up quickly when you buy enough of it to make something like a sweater. If you want to use natural fibers (wool, cotton, I’ll take bamboo too) that’s a large jump in price, even if you’re not getting anything too fancy. And I feel like if I’m going to spend months hand-knitting a sweater, I don’t want to end up with something that’s all plastic and will degrade in a year.

I do also have some fancy hand-dyed yarns that were properly expensive and these ones are indeed 100% on me :P But they’re not really what I’m talking about here.

I tried getting into knitting once, and really appreciated that the entry bar is so cheap. I never made the jump for more expensive yarn, life got in the way and stopped.
Oh yeah, most people just have no clue how much yarn is needed or how much time it takes to make even a fairly simple item
My wife has enlisted friends to help me sell her yarn stash if she dies before me. There’s probably 10 large worth of high value dye lots sitting in bins around me. Her work includes a $200/month yarn shop stipend, and has for many years now.

Yep. Often when I wear a new jumper or whatever around people who know I knit, I get asked ‘oh, that’s pretty, did you make it?’

Lol no, that would have cost me like 5 times more. I couldn’t afford to make it myself.

is that just the value of your time or are you considering you’d use the fanciest yarn too?

It’s not considering the value of my time; a decent (actually wearable) yarn is far more expensive than most people think.

I would consider it a waste of my time to spend a couple hundred hours on a garment that’s barely wearable because it’s uncomfortable and borderline not washable. That’s what you will get with any yarn that won’t cost you over $50 in materials.

Cheap yarns are fine for beginner projects that aren’t made to be worn, but if you’re putting that much of your effort into a garment meant to be used, you should not be using bargain yarn. Your effort is worth too much to sabotage yourself that way.

TIL! I want to get my niece some pretty yarn (she’s just getting in to crochet) but i have no idea how to choose. I just go by “ooo pretty” and “ooo soft” and if it scores high on both, i get it for her. so far so good.

Natural yarns are almost always best for wearables. It doesn’t need to be fancy (other than ooo pretty, which is my biggest criteria, too). I’d avoid 100% polyester, or high blends.

Personally, I love knitting with bamboo blends, and they’re quite affordable. They’re not suited for everything, but many feel like silk whilst wearing like cotton. And they’re often more sustainable.

It doesn’t always wear as well in all contexts, but it’s affordable and pleasant to knit with. I’d say it’s miles better for a beginner than polyester, and often comparably priced.

As someone who owns a spinning wheel, you can dye and spin yarn at home to make the money pit even wider and deeper!
Isn’t spinning your own yarn an amount of work that you should be saving money? 😂

It depends.

It isn’t that yarn in itself is expesive, but if you’re knitting/weaving, you’re not doing it to save money on socks, you want to make something cool and unique. If you really get into it, you’re going to eventually want that specialist wool/bamboo/elastane blend with a super specific colour grade and maybe a specific manufacturing method too. And that’s expensive.

Similarly, if you’re spinning your own yarn, you can get boring old for about half the price of boring old yarn, and even less if you dye big batches yourself. You can get a pretty nice wool for about a quarter of the price of the yarn, so far so good. But of course, if you’re spinning your own yarn, you’re going not doing that for production purposes, you want to make something cool and unique. So you’ll want to blend in specifics, like glitter nylons, or maybe even metalic fibers, and that long-fiber, ultra-fine angora will go great with a slightly thicker cairngorn, etc etc. And before you know it, you’re making yarn that costs maybe ten times what they sell at the local hobby shop.

And spinning wheels aren’t exactly cheap either. Mine was something like 800 euros, but you can easily spend four times that on an electric wheel. You can buy a LOT of yarn for that money. And lets not talk about how much wool I’ve ruined due to lack of skill.

Writing (free)

Maybe if you only write in dirt with your finger. Orherwise you need writing implements and something to write on.

Actually free things you can do:

  • Walking/running

  • Stare

  • Singing

  • Collecting rocks

  • Stare

  • Sleeping

If you’re reading this in a computer, then you already have what you need. otherwise, it’s like you said, the cheapest thing on the list
For walking/running you need proper shoes.
Pretty sure people were walking and running long before shoes ever were invented.
But if you dont want to go bankrupt over medical bills, you should have the right shoes to provide support
pretty sure they walked in dirt, and not concrete roads.

yhea, but it takes years to develop your foot skin to be tough enough for that.

met someone who lived barefoot, his feet were something else.

let’s just say, it isn’t trivial to go back to a life without shoes.

D&D costs $90 for the hard cover core book set and $0 for the pirated pdfs.

Biking can have a high upfront cost, but I’ve been using the same bike for 20 years with tune-ups and replacements running in the low three figures over that time.

I’m a big fan of podcasts, particularly ones that cover old movies. Criterion collection films are everywhere and they’re classics for a reason.

There are cheaper and better TTRPGs.
Not much is cheaper than free
All the other ones also have copies floating on the great seas, and some are just plain free
Sure. But those are the ones I’m most inclined to pay for.
Okay but you didn’t lead with free and as someone else pointed out that’s a moot point when you’re pirating.
SJ Games has GURPS Lite, a free version of their 4th edition. It’s very simplified, but easily playable.
GURPS Lite

Drawing, pencil and paper for start and drawing tablets are not that expensive for starter ones and there’s free open source drawing software.
Ceramics is stupidly cheap to get into. All the tools can be replaced with your hands and a needle, finding workable clay in nature is stupidly easy if you know what to look for and even the garbage clay can be made usable. Most ceramic shops let you rent a shelf on the kiln for like $5. Your first ceramic statue is literally 2 hours of research and $5 away no matter where you are in the world.

finding workable clay in nature is stupidly easy if you know what to look for

Workable clay may be hundreds of kilometers away, depending on where you live.

I mean, I’m in the Netherlands, i literally can’t avoid the stuff, but not everyone lives in a giant river delta.

like me. i live in two giant river deltas. we have clay for days here

So I’m stretching the term “nature” here because when I was posting this I actually completely forgot about real natural clay by rivers. You can also get workable clay from any large amount of sand over dirt that’s gotten wet enough times. The water pulls silica out of the sand and into the earth over time, then you can wash it to get the extra crap out, decant off the water, dry the slip, and boom clay.

Some of the best clay I’ve used came from under an old school playground.

IMO piracy and self hosting has great cost benefits.

Sure it costs money to buy a mini computer and a hard drive, but after, you can spend a long time building that library and it won’t cost you a dime.

And the computer and hard drive is more like an asset, you don’t really lose money when you buy it.

And it kind of pays you back, eventually you get a little tired of building your library but then you can use said library and integrate it into your lifestyle while you get a new obsession.

also, there’s a high when you hoard data like a dragon
And what’s great about it is that it’s a positive sum game, you being a data dragon only ensures it’s easier for others (seeding and it becoming a trend).

Basic concepts like property or ownership make absolutely no sense in the digital world.

By letting people hoard files like a greedy dragon those files are infinitely more available to everyone, in a decentralized network that is free to use and is superior (in content, efficiency, speed, cost) to every for profit company that streams content.

but that smoking monkey was mine i tells ya mine
Drawing (stop pretending you need expensive material do draw nice things, pencils and erasers are the only requirement, and a good sketch book can be found for less than 15 bucks)
who even says that drawing is expensive? it’s so obviously cheap thing to do. we did it so much as children. if it was expensive no kids would be allowed to draw

I see some influencers bragging about why you’d need quality markers like posca to improve your drawing skills. My bros fell for it and beg me to buy some for them.

It’s like thoses ads telling you you need product to do thing better. Even if it’s quality, it doesn’t work this way.

I bought a 25$ set of 8 for them. They used it 2 times then stopped because they couldn’t make what they wanted. They are now asking for a light tablet to “draw better”. They will have to buy it themselves if they really want it.

People somehow always find a way to make the simplest thing expensive with half-useless material.

That ain’t bragging that’s product placement. they ruin everything they touch.

Amen. You have to stay away from that toxic commercialisation. It messes with your brain and stalls your progress in any hobby.

I think one of the best things about arts, crafts, sports, music and the like is that it has a built in resistance to that kind of commercial takeover. Having good pens will not make you better at art, good shoes won’t make you better at soccer, a fancier gym won’t give you bigger muscles. These things come from hard work, perseverance, dedication. You can’t buy skill no matter goes much money you have, I love that.

I do like using nice tools though, although they are overkill for most hobbyist purposes.

I’d probably only buy quality tools if I could afford it, even if I wouldn’t need them necessarily.

Just look into anything that professional artists use. I have had the privilege of using my mom’s coloring pencils ever since I was around 5, and the full package (120 pencils) of those is almost 500€. I don’t use fancy drawing papers, but those are expensive as well.

every hobby can be as expensive as you want it to be. the cost ceiling is however much the richest person doing that hobby is willing to spend.

if 2 billionaires want to get into drawing as they are willing to spend a million for a box of fancy cryons, those products will appear in the market. even though they’ll be marginally better than those 500$ onces

but the question was about the cost of entry. and with drawing, the cost is negligible

There are plenty of hobbies where you can happily enjoy it and only ever spend little if anything.

On the other hand, I’ve found it’s pretty uncommon to find a hobby where you can’t optionally fall down an expensive rabbit-hole of some kind, usually around any kind of equipment or tools you might need as part of some hobby.

Thankfully for most hobbies that kind of thing is not required to enjoy it. You don’t need a fancy guitar to enjoy playing; you can read books from the library, you don’t need to collect your own; in most big enough cities (in Europe at least) you don’t even need to own a bike to go for a cycle (though regularly using bike rental schemes might be a sign to try and get a bike, doesn’t need to be fancy)

all hobbies have a cost floor for entry and a cost ceiling. one is the actual cost, and the other one is a made up number based on the richest person who does that hobby.
Papercraft is pretty cool. If you have some thick card stock paper, a printer, a knife, and some glue, you can find 3D designs online for almost anything. I made an IL2 Sturmovik.

Any art or craft or sport is pretty much free when you weigh up the hours vs the outlay required.

Except skiing and motorsports. That eats money.