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grumbledook Dec 16

🇬🇧 UK & 🇦🇺 Australia have the worst anti-encryption laws among democratic countries.
🇨🇦 Canada risks joining them with Bill C-2.
🇺🇸 US still relies on secret orders under FISA & CLOUD Act.
🇨🇭 Switzerland is no longer the privacy paradise it was claimed to be.

#Encryption is under attack worldwide. Our new global overview shows why Europe remains the best place for encrypted services.

➡️ Check the global overview:
https://tuta.com/blog/encryption-legislation-global-status

#PrivacyMatters

Kari'boka Dec 16

@Tutanota worldwide (only included the West®️™️)

contrasocial Dec 16

@kariboka @Tutanota

Yeah, I'm skeptical (to put it lightly) that China has any user encryption protections whatsoever.

Dimitar Stoev Dec 16

@Tutanota people should start selfhosting as much as possible and go outside of the online world to experience some privacy.. although that is under attack as well.

Aleksei 🇪🇪Dec 16

@Tutanota calling this overview global is a stretch

@placebo Yes, we will think about how to update this.

Omnivore Dec 16

Convince trump that encryption protects pedophiles, and the USA will magically become better protected.

@Tutanota
Definitely, Tuta improves its product every day, and after open-sourcing it has become even more reliable. However, I think you run too many ads attacking alternatives that share some of your values — it comes across like badmouthing a colleague, and people don’t respond well to that. Right now Tuta offers encryption and security features that are unparalleled in the industry; in my opinion, that alone is the key selling point.IMHO

@bemc Thanks, and noted!

Gagagoogle Dec 17

@bemc @Tutanota

Tuta is to Pepsi what Proton is to Coke. Both companies have to deal with that fact. And without the competition between them, Europe would be much worse off.

@gagagoogle @Tutanota
this is interesting. So your point is that a 'privacy mail wars' would be beneficial, right? making people get identified with one of the contenders. Kind of: PC vs. MAC, McDonalds vs. BKing, Coke vs. Pepsi, TUTA vs. PROTON

Gagagoogle Dec 17

@bemc @Tutanota Well, I actually didn't think that far. Just comparison with Pepsi/Coke and that it keeps them both "on edge".

But your interpretation, that the idenitification in it self could be beneficial? Well I'm not sure, but probably it's inevitable. I think it's human nature to take sides.

Personally I would prefer to avoid lock in, like using Proton VPN, Tuta Mail and Bitwarden for passwords. But again, human nature, I'm to cheap (and lazy) for that solution :)

Superboom Dec 16

To fix this map, in Europe we will go from 'best' to 'worst' with #ChatControl...

Well, not if UK ends up with their spyware thing, what the hell is going on there?

@Tutanota sadly the US laws when you export software (out of US and Canada) are a lot more stringent with a max length of 64 key... which makes little sense if exporting to countries not linked to hell, like china, russia etc and harms the US as software therefore can't be sold on the playstore for Europe etc

Gagagoogle Dec 16

@Tutanota Putting Switzerland in a worse position than "EU" seems far fetched to me. Is the statement: "Switzerland is no longer the privacy paradise it was claimed to be." your only source of making it "orange" on your map?

There is a great risk that "Chat Control" will be applied in EU. What´s "green" about that?

There has to be worse threats to Switzerland regulations than "Chat control" then. Could you please enlighten me...

@gagagoogle Chat Control has been updated and it no longer requires undermining encryption - while in Switzerland a law to break encryption and to retain data for email and vpn services is currently being discussed.

Gagagoogle Dec 17

@Tutanota Yes! Chat control has been updated... for now. But the "discussion" is still very real in many of EU:s countries of how to undermine the encryption .

What I'm gathering currently being discussed in Swiss (and not decided yet) is that providers might in the future need to "retain metadata—who you talk to, when and where—without breaking encryption"

So, revise your map, and make Swiss Green AND make a separate dystopical "What might come"-map where you can make both EU and Swiss orange

@Tutanota @gagagoogle Updated how ? No more local scanning ?

@Tutanota There are no explicit prohibitive laws in Russia, but the laws are "flexible" and interpreted as convenient, and there is also a widely used method of cryptographic hacking called "cryptorectal interrogation". I would give it a red.

@boozook there is one that caused The Great Telegram War :) Since it effectively means you can't run public e2e services in Russia - it is correctly marked in white.

Iron Bug Dec 16

@Tutanota @boozook you're right about the red color. but thereàre many laws that prohibit many things. not just encryption but many other things. and many people are behind bars for such "criminal" cases. so this is a very bloody red color.

PlutonicXT Dec 23

@Tutanota Among democratic countries...?