Az_1Reddit files legal challenge against social media ban for under-16s
Sunshine (she/her)Australia is a nanny state censoring the internet.
iktfrom my pov if being a nanny state lets kids be more like kids and less like little phone addicts having their dopamines blown I don’t mind it
there are other countries looking at doing the same
Why Australia Is Banning Social Media for Under-16s
You can regulate big tech without banning support groups.
Aurenkintbf that wouldn’t realllly impact me that much, it’s just reddit and youtube that I use, and the social media ‘ban’ doesn’t block you from accessing reddit or youtube, it’s not like you get a big “BLOCKED! UR UNDER 16!” page come up, you just can’t sign up for an account, so reddit and youtube still work I’d just not be able to see adult content on those sites
Uhh, this is Lemmy.
Grail (capitalised)Reddit has support subreddits for people struggling with mental illness or minority struggles. These are issues kids face, and the government is denying their access, while giving big tech companies excuses to spy on adults.
If by “access” you mean “talk to fellow survivors” and “ask for advice or support”, no.
danParents should be doing a better job parenting, rather than relying on the state to do it for them.
Also, when has banning kids from doing something actually stopped them from doing it? Even “back in my day”, using a proxy to bypass blocked sites was common knowledge amongst the smarter kids. The tech savvy kids would host their own proxies using a free web hosting service and PHProxy (or similar software). These days, it’s much easier to use a VPN or proxy.
Parents can compete against teams of people whose goal is to make their platform as addictive as possible? Nah, it’s a systemic problem and it won’t be solved by some parents sometimes doing something of limited effectiveness. Nor will it be solved by blanket bans.
It’s hard already when parents are overburdened with trying to pay the bills.
so you’re in favour of it then? less need for parents to worry about what misinformation and disinformation is being supplied by paid actors on facebook, win/win ?
No, having parents mailed social media dangers brochures instead would be a better idea.
Hey both of these are covered on the FAQ
proxy to bypass blocked sites was common knowledge
It’s not a technological block, the social media sites will rely on a variety of signals, for example if you sign up for a facebook account in USA, but take a selfie geolocating you in australia and image scan picks up that you might be under 16, you’ll still get pinged for id check
amongst the smarter kids
They are targeting all under 16’s, and this is mentioned as well, even if 10% of kids get around the ban somehow, the fact that 90% don’t removes a huge part of the social in social network
even if 10% of kids get around the ban somehow, the fact that 90% don’t removes a huge part of the social in social network
The kids that get around the ban will spread that knowledge to others. That’s what happened when I went to school, and I don’t think it’s any different today.
ZagorathI don’t disagree, but this law could have been an opportunity to give parents better tools with which to parent.
It is far, far too difficult for any parent today to impose parental controls on their kids’ devices. Parental controls are an afterthought, put in place barely enough to tick the box saying “we have parental controls”, and not effectively doing much of anything. The law could have forced tech companies to do better and make it easy for parents to use effectively.
Not really. The legislation is stupid but the big tech companies are predatory and needed to be regulated. As does the gambling industry.
It is just very poorly done. I have to go find a new music app now for the family as we can’t all use Youtube Music Premium anymore so it is a waste of money. My kids youtube accounts were managed under family link and had comments disabled some content restrictions and no ads. The ads are as harmful as social media IMO - sexualising kids, creating insecurity over appearance, clothing, weight, pushing unhealthy food, gambling, divisive politics.
I can use hacked youtube clients on some platforms but they are closed source from less trusted parties and could be a security risk. I can try and trick YT with vpns and a set of new accounts but thats going to be tricky. Making fake adult accounts is no good as I can’t manage adult accounts under family link and apply the restrictions I want.
But reddit can fuck right off. Hope they get laughed out of court.
You could try alternativeto.net/software/quobuz/about/
Qobuz: A music streaming service and download store with a focus on lossless and
Qobuz is an online music platform offering streaming subscriptions and downloads. Qobuz offers more than 40 million titles in lossless quality (16-Bit/44.1 kHz, similar to CD quality), and possesses a large catalogue of high-resolution content (75,000 albums in 24-Bit Hi-Res).
Very sensible take
100% y’all screech once they come for fed shit.
Starting on Dec 27th Aussies will have to prove their age before using Google search. It’s absurd.
I think it’s to sign in to google. But still that’s going to restrict access to information if you don’t verify.
Not reasonable :/
That’s a bit backwards. By that logic U16s could then just access whatever unrestricted if they don’t sign in?
Also can you still access the connected email or need to get a new one if you don’t verify? Dumb question but I’m not certain of how it all works
By that logic U16s could then just access whatever unrestricted if they don’t sign in?
Age-restricted results will be blurred by default unless you are logged in and meet the minimum age requirement. Those sites that are age-restricted will also require age assurance (porn, for example).
Also can you still access the connected email or need to get a new one if you don’t verify?
I’m not sure how Google will choose to implement it. Maybe age assurance won’t be required at all unless you try to disable the new restrictions. In the case of app stores, for example, no age assurance will be required unless you want to search for R18+ apps.
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The middle ground would be making these companies comply with rules that stop them manipulating users, but we already know that these companies would rather cop the fine and do the bad things anyway.
Hearing in that Australia can straight up not classify a game and therefore ban it is outrageous.
The Mortal Kombat 9 virtue signaling