nerd teacher 🦇Dec 10

I'm starting to feel like "How many abuse allegations does it take to get people to stop working with someone?" is a question I need to put to a Tootsie Pop meme for all the seriousness some groups handle it with.

Which is zero seriousness because they will just let the allegations stack up and "wait for more information" even while all the people who've put forward allegations (and have, as a result of trying to publicise their abuse, completely disappeared as a result of dogpiling and harassment by the abuser and their collaborators) have no connection to each other at all.

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Fuck it, may as well.
Dec 10 at 8:23pmWeb
Show threadnerd teacher 🦇Dec 10
Actually, I feel like adding in the ad's final tagline of "the world may never know" improved it, so here's another version.
Show threadnerd teacher 🦇Dec 11

The more I think on it, the more frustrated I become with all the "But it's carceral to..." folks, which is literally the basis of the rhetoric they use.

No, it is not carceral to make it a policy to either not work with or stop working with a person because of the multiple allegations they have against them, even if they're all un-evidenced. In fact, it really is a bigger problem to demand levels of evidence from multiple survivors of that person, further retraumatising all of them or just outright denying what happened to them. And this is particularly true because most instances of abuse do not come with clear evidence, and that is precisely how so many of these people get away with their behaviour for so long.

If anything is carceral, it is that kind of treatment of survivors.