US forces seize oil tanker off Venezuela coast

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US forces seize oil tanker off Venezuela coast - Lemmy Myserv one

US forces have seized an oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, in a major escalation of Donald Trump’s four-month pressure campaign against the South American country’s dictator, Nicolás Maduro.

definitely not about the oil!!!
freedom?
Nah. The Venezuelans are jealous of all the freedom that the yankees have :)
Let me guess… It was carrying drugs? Just packed full of cocaine? Can’t wait to hear the justification for this one.
“Where’s my Nobel Peace Prize?”
All you get is a soccer peace prize.
Something random trophy a pawn shop with a fresh coat of gold paint from a spray can should work.

Somebody give him an enlarged version of this and tell him it’s the Nobel Peace Price.

Huh, I wonder why they seized it instead of shooting it like the others? It couldn’t possibly be for the oil, right?
In contrast to people, oil has a market value.
You’re not getting paid top dollar for your people? You should see my people guy, he do you a good deal.
That can be changed. Pretty sure Trump is not opposed to slavery.
I mean, I know what your point is, but can we actually just be thankful that they did not in fact blow up an oil tanker and spill all that into the sea?

The deep water horizon did not show America too concerned about oil in the Gulf. I’m not sure they care where it goes if they can’t have it.

What, have they escalated to blockading Cuba now?

We begin to care about it as soon as it shows up as black sandy globs on the beach and sticks to our feet.
blowing up a tanker would cause a huge hazard to the area, spilling oil all over the ocean.
When you put it like, that, that sounds like exactly what they’d want off the coast of Venezuela right now.
Venezuelas oil infrastructure is in such bad shape, that oil spills are pretty common. Lake Maracaibo has them on a regular bases.

A little on the nose, no?

It’s like a complete package, the actual visual representation of what they want to do with Venezuela.

Immediately proves what the war is really about
Cool I guess we’re doing piracy now 🤦‍♂️
An oil tanker…full of drugs?

Petro-terrorists.

Anything’s ok as long as you ad hyphen terrorist to the person, place or thing.

Straight out of the USA wartime playbook!
Starting a nonsense war under the guise of “spreading democracy” just to take their oil reserves so that rednecks back home can pollute the air and warm the earth with their oversized trucks. Can it get any more American this?

He wants to declare war on Venezuela next year (or hopes that he can agitate them enough to commit an act of terror on the US) so he can deny midterm elections because he knows the GOP majority will potentially be cooked

Remember how much his eyes shifted when he was told that elections can be delayed due to a country being at war

Do you have a link to that clip of the shifty eyes?

He’s not 100% wrong.

I’m sure he remembers fondly how every single news network praised him profusely when he dropped the MOAB on Afghanistan.

He knows very well how much the US loves a warmongering president.

I’m starting to get the impression that a large fraction of Americans have lustful thoughts at the idea of mass murdering civilians (including children) as well as at the idea of their “leaders” having sex with children.

Theirs is a diseased relationship with power.

It’s not like the Pilgrim Fathers weren’t a bunch of religious nutjobs
Jesus Christ trump fie already you old fuck
What the man. What the fuck are we doing?
This is not at all like America. I’m quite shocked, really.

You did it in iraq already

Why are americans surprised witht his? Also why isnt the american left on streets yet against this iraq war 2.0?

Why is it possible to seize assets of weaker countries like Venezuela but not war mongers like Russia and the USA ?
According to the NY Times the tanker in question is flying under a flag where it is not registered, and is linked to smuggling Iranian oil.
House Passes $900 Billion Bill That Would Put Trump’s Stamp on Military

The New York Times
Fuck the new york times, fucking imperialist propaganda outlet
we need to organize a bit harder, everyone. seriously!

Organize against what, exactly?

The way I see it, it’s two assholes fighting. Both suck and are responsible of crisis and death of their own country people. Let them fight, then. Though I know Venezuela doesn’t stand a chance, unfortunately.

Ah yes you are displaying the kind of intelligence the US military favours in its recruits. Non at all.
I won’t say my grammar is perfect, but I do try not to misspell things and insult other people’s intelligence at the same time.
You seem to be under the deluded impression that a war between two people only affects those two people, so yeah I’m insulting your intelligence. Do you even know what a war is, I know that’s a stupid question but I’m seriously asking because it sounds like you don’t?
Whatever dude. I know what I’m talking about because I lived in Venezuela at a time when they tried to oust Chávez, and failed miserably.
Great for you but that’s got nothing to do with what we were talking about which was you thinking that a war between Venezuela and the United States would be a good thing.

You all are sleep walking into another forever war nobody wants. I implore everyone to read your own and Latin American history from the last 50 years. It’s not taught.

read.dukeupress.edu/…/The-School-of-the-AmericasM… (Ask Anna for a copy.)

Venezuela

Name: Army Commander in Chief Efrain Vasquez and General Ramirez Poveda

Country: Venezuela

Dates/courses: Attended the SOA in 1988; 1972

Info: Both Vasquez and Poveda helped to lead a failed coup in Venezuela in April of 2002, despite supposedly receiving training at the SOA that encourages respect for democracy and civilian governments. Otto Reich, then Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs, shared his support for the coup and a new government, and in the same year was appointed as a WHINSEC Board of Visitor member to “oversee” democracy and human rights curriculum, as well as operations at the school. Reich met with these SOA graduates prior to the coup and advised business leader Pedro Carmona, who subsequently seized the presidency.

Name: General Ramon Davila Guillen

Country: Venezuela

Dates/courses: Attended the SOA in 1967 for Irregular Warfare training

Info: General Guillen was indicted in November 1996 in connection with a shipment of one ton of cocaine into Miami in 1990, which he says was authorized by the CIA in an effort to catch drug dealers. In 1993, the CIA called the shipment “a regrettable incident” and dismissed the CIA agent involved. (CAP, 9/21/97)

soaw.org/notorious-soa-graduates

The School of the Americas: Military Training and Political Violence in the Americas

Located at Fort Benning in Columbus, Georgia, the School of the Americas (soa) is a U.S. Army center that has trained more than sixty thousand soldiers and

Duke University Press
do you think i should study a bit more socialist theory, and is there any way i can study in layperson’s terms without losing focus quickly?
No, I read that book (The School of the Americas by Leslie Gill) before I knew what socialism was in a Political Theory of Latin America class. It radicalized me and I have used it to radicalize ex military confused libertarians and liberals. It is good without theory, it is pure history. If you read enough history, you can passively get theory via trends and vice versa. That is ultimately what they discuss anyway if the author is decent, via materialist analysis (though that obviously brings its own problems). I am happy to send audio and pdfs as needed to whomever. I am not sure if there is an audiobook of this one, but I am due a refresher regardless.
like i wanna study for socialist theory, but there’s something about it makes my head spin. do you have any tips on “studying in layperson’s terms”?
Listen to that voice and read this: theanarchistlibrary.org/…/russell-means-for-ameri… That voice is telling you something very real and important. Trust yourself.
For America To Live Europe Must Die

Russell Means For America To Live Europe Must Die 1980

The Anarchist Library
i mean the text - i’ve heard of a study method which taking long paragraphs and boiling them down into very short ones. however, sometimes i CAN’T find the right words to a point where i prefer NOT to say anything. do you have any tips?
To summarise the text I attached… Trust the resistance. If it feels like you are forcing something that doesn’t fit, that is probably what you are doing. What are you actually trying to learn? Not “study theory” but what do you want to understand?
learning about socialism and studying it without losing focus quickly or having my head spin. seriously!
You keep asking “how do I get better at the thing that doesn’t work for me” and I am saying “stop doing the thing because it isn’t the only or ‘correct’ way of doing things," not that there is a correct way. You aren’t asking the right questions or starting with questions if you are stuck here. Start figuring you what you want to know.
what do you mean by that?

You keep asking me: “How do I study theory better?” But, theory, as you say, makes your head spin. You lose focus. You can’t find words to summarize it. So my question back is: Why are you trying to force yourself to study theory? What do you actually want to understand? Not “I want to study socialism,” because socialism itself is just a method. Socialism is a tool, not an answer. A hammer without a nail. What questions do you have? What do you want to know about the world? What problems do you care about and want to solve? What do you care about and why? Once you know what you want to understand, learning becomes effortless.

ps: always happy to soundboard :)