@sean_ae I read this book when I was a teenager called "Cyberia" that covered the 90's San Fran rave scene and echoed similar sentiments of ritual / primal nature, which I feel I've experienced just a handful of times in my life, completely letting go and dancing in dark warehouses or in the slip of a small field in the woods. But I've gone to some events where they're using "rave" as if it's a trademark or something to sell; the commodification of rave culture... which i guess is what ultimately killed that first wave (?) (just pulling from what I've read there). there are still diy dance parties where only coordinates are passed around - under bridges and in rented buildings in industrial parks in Richmond that feels thrilling / "off grid" and like everyone is there for music / connection. perhaps that's the spirit of "rave" kept alive.