ThefuzzyFurryComradeKing Gizzard Pulled Their Music From Spotify in Protest, and Now Spotify Is Hosting AI Knockoffs of Their Songs
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AsetruIf anything, Germany is one country where this would actually be legal…
Wenn das Original bereits veröffentlicht wurde und bei einer Verwertungsgesellschaft wie der GEMA registriert ist, bedarf es keiner Erlaubnis des Urhebers, denn diese verwaltet die Nutzungsrechte der registrierten Künstler. Grundsätzlich ist die GEMA allerdings verpflichtet, jedem, der einen urheberrechtlich geschützten Song nutzen will, diese Rechte einzuräumen.
Gem. § 11 UrhWahrnG unterliegt die GEMA einem Kontrahierungszwang und dies in doppelter Hinsicht: Auf der einen Seite ist die GEMA ihren Mitgliedern verpflichtet, die ihr übertragenen Rechte wahrzunehmen, auf der anderen Seite ist darüber hinaus in der Pflicht, dem Musiknutzer diese Rechte auf Nachfrage gegen Entgelt einzuräumen. Damit ist das das Covern von verschiedenen Musiktiteln größtenteils erlaubt, auch wenn es einigen Künstlern sicherlich nicht gefallen wird.
bonenodeBig if true. All those years of shit because of GEMA and now this. Guess a broken clock and so on…
I mean the broken clock is still wrong in this case. Everyone should be able to pirate anything, the issue so far is that only companies get a free pass while individuals get sued into bankruptcy.
So spotify has stolen their music. We have the technology to do anything we want, but someone needs to pay for it. Billionaires are holding us back. Billionaires are choosing not to end hunger or poverty. Remember that: rich people are choosing not to end hunger, homeless, or poverty. In fact, the rich are making it worse.
I literally got recommended this AI band as well. Normally I can search: “X band AI” and I get results whether or not they are real or not.
All I had were 50 pages about the original band leaving Spotify.
I blocked this suspicious sounding band in-case it was AI. Looks like I was right.
Just as a note: earlier this year I stated I’d keep subscribing to Spotify because the recommendations were worth the cost. I was wrong, and I’m slowly starting my transition away.
But given the AI imitations that are still invading Release Radar and Discover Weekly playlists, which the company prominently recommends to its users
This is the turbo-shitty part of the whole thing.
Facebook do this as well; they act like they’ve got too many users to police everything that gets uploaded, and you could almost believe them on that, but they sure as fuck have the resources to be able to police what they’re choosing to boost.
They’re choosing not to do that, because The Algorithm is highly tuned around “how many dollars can we make next month” and they’d rather use that as their metric.
YerboutiI still use Pandora. I know they still lowball artist payments (not as bad as Spotify though) but I’ve never been presented with AI music on there as of yet.
im on spotify and also have not gotten any AI music. nor have i seen any ads for ICE that i keep hearing about. all im missing is gizz really but that can easily be downloaded. just time consuming due to sheer amount of songs
Pandora just repeats the same set of songs over and over and over and over for me. Then you go over to the next radio, plays few popular songs and then the start repeating the ones you liked many moons ago again.
What you are describing is what i like about it. And it introduced new songs often enough for me to not get bored with it.
wizblizzSpotify is an advertising platform, first and foremost. They don’t give a fuck about music or artists.
I used Spotify super early and it’s crazy how anti consumer and musicians they are, or became. Every now and then they smuggled in some ads and every time it was like: omg what a weird glitch. Podcasts, you would still hear their stupid ads. Oh well, then they suddenly injected ads into podcasts, wait, why do i pay for ads now? Seriously they deserve to go under.
I had a few support cases open with them when I open Spotify and get full screen ads about podcast and they spin it all “oh no. That’s not an ad that’s a recommendation!”
I don’t use Spotify for podcasts, full stop, I had how I have to switch it from “all” to “music” on the home page. So dumb.
Kind Gizzard can still drop albums faster than AI.
fossilesqueTheir live shows are basically giant jam sessions with their songs mixed in.
Have they beaten Buckethead yet? Who released like a hundred records by seemingly just jamming for a year or more?
Goodness me, not close! King Gizzard are certainly prolific but not on that scale!
Well, at least they can aspire to beat Muslimgauze, who released ninety albums on thirty-two different labels in seventeen years — mostly in the last eight or so — and died at the age of thirty-seven, leaving unreleased material for ninety more records. Alas, the music is rather samey.
Did you know that in the US you can copy spotify AI knockoff and sell them ? As it is not human produced, they are not protected by IP laws 🤭
Problem is that because they are not human produced they are worthless.
I know it doesn’t matter much, but it pleases me that Spotify isn’t getting my money.
I’m currently using OpenTune. Works great. What are you guys on?
MinnesotaGoddammusicolet (phone) mediamonkey (desktop)
Recently read Spotify is running ads for the USA gestapo.
Fully unsubbed/deleted same day. Hell to the no.
Them pulling out of Spotify was the last push I needed to switch to Tidal. The only downside for me is there was a spotify exclusive cover of Daisy by Wet Leg that you can’t get anywhere else.
setVeryLoud(true);Giz has all of their stuff on bandcamp for pay what you can
Wet leg is in there too
Join mp3 gang and leave streaming behind
any recs for good mp3 players? hard to find an affordable good condition ipod classic nowadays
old phone whats still got the plug
PSPs and DS/3DSs play them pretty well, plus you get style points for being “retro”.
As someone that owned both, please don’t use them for audio (at least the first gen PSP, don’t know about the revisions). The audio while there is very bad compared to even BT audio nowadays. DS was especially bad that I didn’t bother with it. They are fine for retro games (and native games) even today though.
The audio was bad even with headphones? I never personally noticed a quality difference using the trusty 3.5mm jack present on those devices from the original mp3 file that I was using.
It was pretty muddy but usable. I had a PSP hooked up to my car stereo via 3.5 jack on a custom dock that made it look really cool for a student on a budget back in the day (especially with the graphic the PSP could do while playing music), however whenever one of my friends would connect their iPod the difference in clarity was easy to tell.
I had basic after market speakers, with a very basic after market stereo (maybe ~$200 for both), nothing crazy but even in those you could tell. This was with a first gen PSP.
Fiio makes one
Winamp really whips the llama’s ass
Bandcamp doesn’t have spotify exclusives, but I hear you.
Bandcamp gets so much of my money…it’s the best service
Qobuz allows you to stream but also to buy high quality albums which you can then download as well.
Of course choose the option you prefer as long as you support bands you listen to. I bought plenty of King Gizzard albums on Bandcamp too now. Other bands I buy vinyl from that sometimes also means I get codes for those albums on Bandcamp. And through Qobuz artists I listen to at least get higher reimbursement for those streams.
Bet ill have to look into that. Sometimes strraming is nice for discovering new artists. I just dont vibe with any of the main stream services
I do recommend getting a trial, it has none of the social features of a Spotify and no free tier means you can’t share links to people who don’t use it. For me the last is a bit of a shame since I’d like to use that method to get friends acquainted with it. For me, it’s worth it.
One complaint I have about Qobuz isn’t even Qobuz fault.
But often my purchased track are removed shortly after purchase.
The DMCA trolling is so bad that Qobuz has to prunt a warning that you download your tracks ASAP after purchase.
That said i can’t find better services than Qobuz and Bandcamp.
My biggest complaint is they act like everyone in Belgium speaks French. And you can’t choose your language for either communication or interface, they base it of country. So despite being part of a majority of Dutch speakers, I get everything in French, including French language artists.
Still worth it though.
Wait is that why qobuz’s library is a bit lacking? Why do they have so many DMCA takedowns?
I presume it’s a similar licensing to tv shows. They get a conditional license for a short period of time and then it’s revoked and theyre forced to comply.
I totally understand taking down the store listing. But if I already bought the music, I expect to be able to download them again in perpetuity.
I wish more musicians could / would reject record labels and publish independently.