fne8w2ah4 reasons Plex is turning into the thing it replaced
Korne127Does jellyfin have an easy way for remote streaming? I have a couple dozen people on my Plex server, most not very tech savvy, so setting up tailscale and running remote that way isn’t an option. I have a Plex pass so I haven’t been screwed by Plex yet, so I’m not rushing to get out, but I could see myself running both.
no, tailscale is still the easiest option.
Bummer… unfortunately, that’s a deal breaker for me to completely drop Plex. Maybe someday.
Tailscale. You don’t even need it on the client device, you can get a gl.inet travel router that’ll do the work.
I’m not going to all of my friends and families houses and swapping out their routers wtf
I swear every single Plex related thread has the same Jellyfin fanatics coming in. Same energy as “my MIL has trouble with her computer” “just install Linux bro!” comments.
Still better than the army of Plex fanboys that all claim to have dozens of senior citizens streaming from their Plex server.
AmbiguousPropsI don’t have dozens, but I have 3. Those three are close family members. Do you think people don’t invite their parents or inlaws to their Plex server?
Clearly people do, but I think they represent a vocal minority of Plex’s overall userbase. The expectation that a free project with no revenue stream should provide an ongoing service that’s going to cost them money and seems to be what Plex is using to squeeze its users always strikes me as disingenuous. There are ways to enable remote access with Jellyfin, but you have to do it yourself because nobody’s paying them to run those servers.
Could you explain then instead of just posting a snarky comment that contributes nothing to the conversation?
Can you fly out to my MIL every time her router breaks and fix it for her?
Editing your post like this instead of engaging in conversation is so childish, grow up
Tailscale is woefully impractical, as is setting up travel routers. You’re adding so much unnecessary complexity that has the chance to fail and frustrate them even more. Doubly so for anyone an appreciable distance from you (having tried this before, it’s just not worth it for me). And not everyone wants to buy hardware to setup a remote streaming platform for blue hairs, because that also adds to the administrative complexity of the setup.
But feel free to continue your childish tantrum about how people don’t understand why your genius ideas are really super great.
So I don’t get it, I have mine up with a domain without tsilscale… The clients are quite happy wherever. I don’t even see that much “crawling” traffic that goes to the domain, most just hit the server by ip and get a static 401 page that the “default” site is hard coded to give out.
At some point, somewhere on the internet, someone authoritatively claimed that tailscale is the one and only acceptable solution to getting your jellyfin server outside your LAN and it just kind of took root. nginx has worked perfectly fine for me.
I set mine up with HAProxy for TLS offloading and ACME for the server cert. Restrict your access to just your country/region by GeoIP and you are pretty good to go.
roofuskitYes-ish, it’s harder for you than the users. But you will have to secure a URL and they will have to remember that URL. Also there’s some security issues with some unsecured endpoints on Jellyfin. That said I have mine out there exposed to the net and am comfortable enough with it.
kratoz29I already have to expose my Plex Media Server with a Tailscsle funnel (for IPv4 only) for IPv6 I use my Synology NAS reverse proxy which can be accessed globally.
I have been maining this setup for years now that I forgot if I can access my PMS outside without either those solutions lol (I am GGNATED but IPv6 works fine as stated).
The main thing here is that I don’t need my users to do anything, they just open the app and access it, no need to remember IPs/URLs or install VPNs to my server… Is that possible with Jellyfin as well?
No, there’s not centralized host server to connect your users with your server. They need a fixed IP or URL to access your server from outside your network.
All possible, but currently I have lifetime Plex pass and just need to share with people I want to share with. No extra config. Once Jellyfin can do that or something similar, I’ll look at jumping ship. Until then, the juice isn’t worth the squeeze.
dantheclammanThe first one, yes. That’s what I do. But IIRC hosting media via cloudflare tunnels goes against the TOC and they reserve the right to ban users over it
They changed their TOC a while ago, the only thing they have in there now is boiler plate stuff about not hosting pirated content.
www.cloudflare.com/en-gb/terms/
You agree not to, and not to allow third parties to use the Services to … post, transmit, store or link to any files, materials, data, text, audio, video, images or other content that infringe on any person’s intellectual property rights or that are otherwise unlawful;
I just set up a cache rule to ignore my jellyfin subdomain and they won’t ever care about me and my half dozen users.
Oh that’s good news! I really only use it for myself, so that sounds like I can stream my music without worrying