An excellent episode of @notjustbikes's Urbanist Agenda with @BrentToderian.

5 stages of urban planning. 1: the wrong thing (car-centric design). 2: the wrong thing, but better (EVs are better than ICE cars). 3: have your cake and eat it too (widen roads while adding bike/transit lanes). 4: doing the right thing, badly (painted bike lanes). Alt 4: only the low-hanging fruit (bike lanes in parks). Finally, 5: doing the right thing, well.

Says @brisbane did stage 3 when he was here.

Can't link it because it's only on Nebula so far. Think it goes to YouTube in about a week?

I find it interesting that @BrentToderian said Brisbane did stage 3. I can't think of many examples of that (maybe the Gympie Rd bus lanes?). But I can think of a **lot** of both types of Stage 4 (most of our bikeways are along creeks or motorways, or lose safety/priority at crossings, or are just painted shoulders), and some Stage 2 (privatising HSW while making it worse for bike transport).

@BrentToderian but I can't think of too many examples of us doing Stage 3, and would *love* to know what projects he worked on that fit that category