return2ozmaGavin Newsom opposes California ‘billionaire tax’ as he eyes 2028 White House bid
rockSlayerAnd so it begins. Abandon all progressive ideas to appeal to the “centrist”, only to lose to the fascist again. I hate it here.
Gavin never supported progressive ideals?
Eh, early in his term he did a bunch of good stuff, it's just rightly overshadowed by the bad stuff.
Yeah and while he’s probably not enough of a progressive, he also might not be bothering with the billionaire tax because the billionaires would all just fly off Hawaii or Nevada or Jackson Hole or wherever to avoid paying it anyway.
It needs to be nationwide, but Newsom probably wouldn’t do that as president either. Too many billionaire pals and donors.
he also might not be bothering with the billionaire tax because the billionaires would all just fly off Hawaii or Nevada or Jackson Hole or wherever to avoid paying it anyway.
That basically never actually happens. See: New York.
I’d vote for Newsom if he’s the nominee, but I really hope he’s not the nominee (assuming, obviously, the relative utopian future where we get to vote in 2028).
I’m glad when his media exposure goals overlap with doing actual good things, but - and I may be putting too fine a point on it - he’s basically Hillary if Hillary had a penis and was super jazzed about it, and I am fairly confident I know the smug look he makes when he smells his own farts.
Real shame that our voting choices are kill children and kill children at turbo speed but alas
gustofwindI don’t think he’d do well in a primary taking a proactive stance against a billionaire tax
Much like this old gem.
Democrats Change Platform to Add God, Jerusalem
No surprise to anyone who’s been paying attention to what he does instead of what he says.
Slimey as fuck I hate that guy
Brave Little Hitachi WandScratch a capitalist and you’ll find a fascist. But yeah gun to my head, I’ll take it. Figuratively speaking, at least for now.
ynthrepicBut milquetoast is losing. People want change. The time to start thinking about alternatives to him is now.
I think AOC will have a better chance frankly. Particularly if Memdani’s momentum continues.
SkunkWorkzA lefty needs to win a governor seat in a major state first to continue that momentum to the White House. That will give the average blue voter the confidence to vote for a social democrat or socialist in the primaries.
Yeah that's the thing about capitalists: They're come as a package with fascists.
Fuck you sleeze bag
I really hope that Democrats are starting to realize that corporate captured performance artists like Gavin Newsom are why we have been lurching rightward into fascism for 40+ years. They are why there’s been no meaningful opposition. Newsome doesn’t believe in anything beyond a vague allegiance to capital interests and his own career advancement. Sometimes that ethos will cause him to say some good things, and sometimes he’ll do the opposite. But, he’ll never, ever meaningfully change anything at all.
The best case scenario with a Newsom presidency is that he will preside over a temporary slowing of the collapse, while sowing the seeds of further escalation by the white-identity, religious authoritarian dominionists that are flourishing under trump. Democrats, Americans, and the world deserve much more than him.
I really hope that Democrats are starting to realize that corporate captured performance artists like Gavin Newsom are why we have been lurching rightward into fascism for 40+ years.
So there are two possible interpretations for why the Democrats are so stubbornly useless:
It's a big club and you ain't in it.
You can't get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it.
Either way there's no "realizing" anything.
At this point in time I’m pretty sure you would win in a landslide if you ran on taxing billionaires. Is being greedy a requirement to be a politician in the US?
That would only be true if most people couldn’t think for themselves and it was possible to spend money to influence their opinion.
Huh. What got deleted by a mod if you agree?
Whatever you were replying to.
The thing I replied to says, “That would only be true if most people couldn’t think for themselves and it was possible to spend money to influence their opinion”.
I wonder why a mod would delete that.
Probably a bug.
Well, added context is billionaires won’t fund your campaign causing your public relations to drop. Then you lose.
We shouldn’t just scapegoat the rich for something that tens of millions of people vote for while tens of millions more don’t vote at all.
Irrelevant context. As a great sage once said
If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice
This is a binary system one OR the other will win. There is no other outcome. You either push to influence it in a better or worse direction you dont get to sit it out. The result WILL effect you.
It is relevant and important context because we solve this problem by convincing the millions of people, not the rich.
A wise famous playwrite once said:
"Putting the cart before the horse ".
“Putting the cart before the horse”
Which is what youre doing by waiting for your perfect fantasy candidate rather than working with the good enough reality.
You must have me confused with somebody else.
If Newsom wins the primary then I’ll be singing his praises, you wan sleep well knowing that much.
I dont believe you. Especially after your previous posts. And god know how many others youve influenced with those “stay home and wait for perfect” ideals.
Which post is that?
And Newsom is different from Trump, how exactly? Dude hosted Charlie Kirk and Steve Banon on his podcast, that he wasn’t required to do, and didn’t question them, just nodded along like Joe Rogan.
Newsom is shaping up to be a DNC approved Trump at this rate. Loves Nazis, hates taxes, claims to love the real America, hated COVID protections being applied, doesn’t care about brown people… Fucker needs to lose in the primary quickly. Assuming we get a fair one.
At some point the left needs to realize that sitting out voting doesn’t work. Yes the candidate sucks from your political stance but they are better than the alternative and it gives a platform from which to push left. This has been the playbook of the right for decades and is why they have been so successful in shifting the Overton window. They vote in any circumstance even if the candidate isn’t as right leaning as they would prefer but to them at least it’s not a dem.
Your vote is your voice. A vote is earned not expected.
I’ll never vote for Newsom. I’ve stated that on here before. He’s anti-trans and deep in corporate pockets. The Getty family owns him.
Here we go again… “If you don’t vote for Biden you support Trump!” … “If you don’t vote for Harris you support Trump!” … “If you don’t vote for X you support Trump!”
I wonder how that works in solid color states. If you vote third party in a solid blue state, does that mean a vote for red? Or is it actually a vote for blue if you ask for a red voter’s opinion on the matter?
Going off the theory that your vote is actually for the person a particular voter opposes, does that mean your protest vote is actually determined by the popular vote? For example, if you protest voted the 2024 election, does that mean you actually voted blue because red won the popular vote? Assuming that every color says the protest vote voted for their enemies.
Every action is a vote for something. It never hurts to consider the consequences.
By all means push forward a better candidate than Newsom. And I hope you succeed. But if you don’t, and it turns out that in the end it’s going to be either Newsom or Vance (or even Trump), then who would you rather have?
Every vote is a push in one direction or the other in the US. You can vote to push right, you can vote to push left, or you can avoid voting and let the rest of us decide for you. But the last time a bunch of leftists weren’t thrilled with the options, the electorate voted to push right. From your valid gripes against Newsom, I’m gonna guess that was not what you wanted.
Come election day, one of the two candidates is guaranteed to become president. You cannot stop that. I won’t try to say Newsom is ideal or even a good candidate. I’d love to see someone else run instead. But if you want an even more leftist candidate next time, the country has to show they’ll tolerate movement in that direction, and that means not electing another fucking Republican.
We still have ample time to get someone better than Gavin.
√𝛂𝛋𝛆This guy fuckmurders the homeless while whoring for billionaires. Why the fuck should anyone vote for this prick?
NeilBrüI’d vote for him over Trump, but he has not won me over by any stretch, just like Harris, Biden, and (Hillary) Clinton.
A fun PR person sending tweets is insufficient to win my vote. I wouldn’t be voting for him, I’d be voting against Trump, as has been the case each time Trump has been on the ballot.