What is the biggest number?

https://lemmy.world/post/39646267

i’m sorry tree(3)
Best I can do is 3.50.
“God damn Loch Ness monster!”
I always liked Graham’s Number. I didn’t like that it was TREE(1)=1, TREE(2)=3, and TREE(3) dwarfs even Graham’s Number. At least G=g_64 which is built up from g_1.
TREE(g_64)
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You just sent me down a rabbit hole learning about TREE(3), thank you
It’s true. If you ask a mathematician what number is the biggest they won’t give you a straight answer.
-ant! Finish your words, it’s not that hard!

In set theory, sets containing an infinite number things are relatively easy to describe. For example, “All the counting numbers” is a set with an infinite number of things in it.

Many sets with an infinite number of things have a one to one correspondence to each other, meaning that we can describe a function that takes elements of one set as an input, gives elements of the other set as an output, and spans both sets - no element is skipped on either side.

“All the even counting numbers” has a one to one correspondence with “All the counting numbers”. You can look into Hilbert’s Hotel for a good demonstration of how this works.

Not all sets with an infinite number of things correspond with the set of all counting numbers, because some are fundamentally bigger. This difference in size doesn’t happen just once (e.g. there are countably infinite sets, and uncountably infinite sets, and that’s all we need to know), there are actually an infinite number of sets of progressively bigger infinite numbers of elements.

Because this is a confusing mess, we needed a way to keep track of how infinitely big each infinitely big set is, and the aleph cardinalities are the preferred way to do that. Any set with cardinality of aleph zero (aka “aleph null”) has a one to one correspondence with any other set with cardinality aleph zero. The same is true for every other aleph cardinality. Two sets of cardinality aleph thirty seven have a one to one correspondence with each other.

Anyways, busy beaver(tree(aleph omega)) is the biggest number.

Pretty sure they were being sarcastic. I mean they know the word aleph which strongly indicates they know what sets of infinite numbers are.
Is mayonnaise a number?
No, dumbass. Mayonnaise is two numbers.
Now I went down a rabbit hole reading about aleph and tree(3). I did not even study math why do I do this to myself…
Because you hate yourself, that’s how i got my associates in mathematics: you just have to hate yourself.
There is no biggest number. By virtue of the real numbers (the largest orderable set) being unbounded, for every number in R you can find a number larger. You can also find a number smaller for any number.
Indeed, but OP was referencing aleph_0 and aleph_1 etc, the cardinality of the integers and the reals respectively.
Bet is bigger
Well, with aleph_0 being the smallest infinity and aleph_1 being the second smallest known infinity, I can’t pretend to be surprised.
Aleph is U2135, bet is U2136. Is biggerer

Paradoxically, the empty set is U+2205.

THEY ARE PLAYING US FOR ABSOLUTE FOOLS!

They’ll say there’s no such thing, and that’s why we have concept of Infinity.
Every time I see one of those AI fuckups and try it myself, it never works :/
It’s pretty easy to fake one using the developer tools in your browser.
They aren’t deterministic. There are a few common ones that are cached, but if you get bad (or good?) RNG in the response generation you’ll never manage to get the same result as someone else.
The lesson you should take away here is that unsourced screenshots on social media are always fake and made up.

I asked the Brave search AI thing and it said this:

what is the biggest number

There is no largest number because the set of natural numbers is infinite; for any number you can think of, adding one produces a larger number. While infinity is often mentioned, it is not a number but an abstract concept representing boundlessness.

Among named numbers, a googol ( 10^100 ) is a 1 followed by 100 zeros, and a googolplex ( 10^googol ) is 1 followed by a googol of zeros, making it vastly larger than a googol. The googolplex is so large that writing it out would require more space than the observable universe contains.

However, even larger numbers exist in mathematical contexts. Graham’s number, used in a proof in Ramsey theory, is significantly larger than a googolplex and was once considered the largest number used in a legitimate mathematical proof. It is so immense that it cannot be expressed using standard scientific notation and requires special notations like Knuth’s up-arrow or Conway chained arrow notation.

Other extremely large numbers include TREE(3), which grows faster than any primitive recursive function and is independent of weak arithmetic systems, and Friedman’s SSCG(3), which is much larger than TREE(3). The Busy Beaver function produces numbers that are uncomputable and exceed any computable function.

Rayo’s number is defined as “the smallest positive integer bigger than any finite positive integer named by an expression in the language of first-order set theory with a googol symbols or less” and is considered one of the largest named numbers. Similarly, BIG FOOT is a number proposed as even larger than Rayo’s number.

In summary, while numbers like a googolplex are often cited as the largest named numbers, mathematical constructs such as Graham’s number, TREE(3), and Rayo’s number are vastly larger and demonstrate that there is no upper limit to how large a number can be.

No idea if that’s accurate or not but it sounds legit lol.

Biggest signed 32 bit integer i can do gets to 2038
Year 2038 problem - Wikipedia

To be fair, there are a ton of people living in Brazil. There are like, Brazillians of them.
Well, guess I am a number now
I always knew I could count on you
valeu broder, é nóis 👍
The biggest number is TREE(3)

TREE(3) + 1

#gottem 😎

Haha, this reminds me of sitting in bed with my 3 year old.
I heard there was a earthquake in Rio de Janeiro. The casualties were in the Brazilians.

Pretty unlikely to have an earthquake in Rio de Janeiro.

Edit: you people need to check the number of recording earthquakes on Rio de Janeiro.

it was a joke mate
I want a Brazilian dollars lol
If this is real an unedited… maybe ai wasnt a mistake
This is likely fake, but still funny. I just tried it and got a reasonable answer.
Could still be real. Ai will give different answers to the same question.
Posting responses like these is a mainstream social media trend, so probably
It’s quite plausibly real. Gemini can def get in shitposty basins and has historically had a fairly inconsistent coherence across samples.
Garbage in, garbage out
BIG if true
How big?

1 Brazillian.

No, 1 Hollywood.

Not even Bro-zillion

Whatever floats your boat, mate.

Username checks out.

Much underrated comment.