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Infosys co-founder once again calls for longer than 70-hour weeks - and no, he's not joking

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Infosys co-founder once again calls for longer than 70-hour weeks - and no, he's not joking - Reddthat

>Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, Infosys co-founder Narayana Murthy has once again called for longer working weeks has returned, this time with an emphasis on schedules like the 996-pattern used in parts of China. > >Murthy’s comments revive a debate which began in 2024, when he argued that Indian employees should work 70 hours a week.

neon_nova Nov 29

Some billionaires are saying shorter work weeks be used of AI, some are saying longer.

If this just a way for us to be “grateful” for things to remain the same?

AllNewTypeFace Nov 29

It’ll be longer. AI will be there to accelerate the cadence, turning “knowledge workers” from artisans who have the relative luxury of solving problems autonomously at their workstations intro assembly-line labour who hurriedly sling prompts and patch up botshit.

Rotshit, botshit, dirty old twot

Oh fuck off, asshole… you need to be thrown in prison.

lectricleopard Nov 29

He needs to take a long walk, on a short pier.

Needs to be shot into the sun. Return his atoms to the foundry

NoForwardslashS Nov 29

Ok I’ll do 70 hour weeks as long as it promises I am also a billionaire by retirement. So that’ll be a salary of 21 million a year please.

Lon3star Nov 29

Exactly, I’ll work my ass off for a year or two, but them I’m out

WeirdGoesPro Nov 29

You won’t be out when your rent is a million per month and groceries are 100k.

MinnesotaGoddam Nov 29

that’s less than the ganis on a billion in investments

Em Adespoton Nov 29

By retirement?

I’d expect majority shares in any company I worked that much for, AND a 7-figure salary.

And retirement would be in 5 years.

Lon3star Nov 29

Pay me 3mil a year and I’ll consider it

Zephorah Nov 29

There is a large body of research out there regarding 12h shift work in healthcare. I’m only linking 1 article, a quick search will yield more, easily.

A TLDR on it: 12h shifts decrease performance. Stacking them decreases safety and performance, cumulatively. Car accidents pick up significantly on day 4.

Hylactor Nov 29

Am I missing the article link?

Truscape Nov 29

It’s not showing on my client either, hopefully they edit their comment.

confusedwiseman Nov 29

Let’s try this one

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7695681/

The impact of moving to a 12h shift pattern on employee wellbeing: A qualitative study in an acute mental health setting

Against a backdrop of increasing demand for mental health services, and difficulties in recruitment and retention of mental health staff, employers may consider implementation of 12 h shifts to reduce wage costs. Mixed evidence regarding the impact ...

PubMed Central (PMC)

Zephorah Nov 29

Yes, I failed to paste the copy. After a 12 hour shift.

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4629843/

Negative Impacts of Shiftwork and Long Work Hours

Healthcare organizations often have to provide patient care around the clock. Shift work (any shift outside of 7 a.m. to 6 p.m) and long work hours increase the risk for short sleep duration and sleep disturbances. Thirty-two percent of healthcare ...

PubMed Central (PMC)

CompactFlax Nov 29

It’s utter madness that healthcare professionals are allowed to work (in many countries) longer than truck drivers. It’s even more ridiculous that many countries have a medical doctor internship program that is designed by an absolute cocaine fiend assigning 30 hour days - and see nothing wrong with it.

lectricleopard Nov 29

Capitalism protects the capital (goods, and equipment, on a truck), and values human lives at approx $3 million (based on financial cost for the company when a life is lost).

The value of the truck and the contents of the trailer are frequently greater than the value of the driver for a given trip, and therefore justify more caution and care than any given patient in a doctor’s office.

Tollana1234567 Nov 29

probably the shortage problems, and unwillingness for the industry to alleviate the problem. and the pipeline from college to health professional is long and grueling. MD IS heavily gatekeeped by the license certification association.

HertzDentalBar Nov 29

US: Truck driver crashing causes property damage, patients dieing causes the bed to open up for another paying customer.

Rest of the world: Shortages due to cost of education along with not enough spots available for said education.

Zephorah Nov 29

There’s less errors overall in having consistency in who healthcare reports off to between shifts. The 17% is balanced out by that (math wise). The errors in having 3 people reporting around an 8hr clock are significantly higher than with the 12hr clock.

But a 4th shift? Staying over to 16hrs? The 36hr week, I feel, is the extent to which you can safely take the 12h shift.

Additional madness is in that, in 26 states, the administrators of hospitals can hold shift workers over into double shifts. I don’t know about you, but I lose the capacity to read words around hour 18. Yet, this practice is engaged routinely in health care, without regard to sleep patterns. Maybe it is an 8h shift. Maybe that person spent day shift in school then went to work for an evening shift. Now is being held on their license to stay a night shift. And expected to drive home after more than 24hrs awake. Maybe their babysitter leaves at midnight. How good and safe is that patient care going to be?

It’s almost like the collective bargaining of a union works.

Someone told me that the reason for 12 hour shifts is that most medical mistakes and accidents happen because of shift changes. Reducing the number of shift changes from 3 to 2 results in fewer mistakes, despite longer working hours.

Zephorah Nov 29

This is true. It also results in less intershift rancor. But it doesn’t change the difficulties of 4th and 5th shifts in the same week.

I’m all for turning a 40hr/5day work week into a 36hr/3day work week. It works well in 24hr professions.

What I’m not for is this 996 nonsense.

Not really, a huge cocaine user came up with the system, and we use it since then because “it’s as we always have done it!!”

Apparently it’s about reducing shift changes, which is when most mistakes happen. You would have to hope that someone has done research into mistakes caused by fatigue vs. mistakes caused by shift changes.

Zephorah Nov 29

In the healthcare environment that is true. 12h shifts retain consistency between back and forth reporting, while with 8hr shifts things get lost or missed or misinterpreted in the handoff.

My point is that 3 is the sweet spot, it’s the 4th and fifth shifts that become cumulatively bad and result in increased car accidents on the commute.

So 6 days of 12-hour shifts? Sounds like a pretty novel way to tank your economy because no one’ll have the time to spend money or raise a family.

CompactFlax Nov 29

“Why aren’t the proles making babies? I specifically requested it!”

showmeyourkizinti Nov 29

Absolutely! The short sighted idiocy of this really points out the corporate thinking only about the next Q. This would get maybe a month before the economic crash

Which they will then solve with mass immigration they can control easier.

MuskyMelon Nov 29

Infosys is a shitty boss that would contract for 2 resources but only assign 1 to do the work. That’s why he wants 80 hours per headcount.

This is why I’m somewhat happy that AI would render extinct companies like Infosys, Wipro, etc.

chocrates Nov 29

Infosys is slimy enough they will find a way to survive

cecilkorik Nov 29

Looks very nicely built I would be pleased to have one of these in my home.

Voytrekk Nov 29

Far too nice. No need for the blade to be so sharp and free of rust.

atrielienz Nov 29

There’s an awful lot of billionaires. Don’t want it to take too long or we’ll be hacking at necks all day.

Tollana1234567 Nov 29

they will mostly like concentrate in 1 place, like an enclave, let them collect there all at once, then you can make your move.

beemikeoak Nov 29

When the time is right, you squirt some acid on the blade. Any acid… Citric and acetic are pretty easy and they hurt like a beach on a small cut.

Tollana1234567 Nov 29

or do it the old fasioned way in , like with scimitar.

MisterFrog Dec 2

Personally I’d make an exception to my moral stance that work as punishment is slavery, and would prefer to keep him around forcing him to work 70 hours a week, in addition to doing all the other chores required so that he can live - in prison - for the rest of his life.

Maybe we’ll make it 84 hours a week just for good measure, can’t be giving him a day off.

Seems more poetic

Australis13 Nov 29

I'm sure these idiots have no concept of the future. They want to burn everyone out in months to years for the sake of boosting their profits in the here and now. Doesn't matter that if you treat your workers well (and pay them well) you often get greater productivity over a longer period.

flamiera Nov 29

What a megalomaniac.

Yeah he's inspired by a system which country banned it and yet he still wants it?

Em Adespoton Nov 29

Revive a debate? Really? In that case, I’m reviving the debate for redistributing Murthy’s net wealth to all citizens as UBI.

We don’t eat enough billionaires

That's because they taste extremely bitter and putrid. I suggest we just eject them into space towards the sun, and make them pay for it.

MinnesotaGoddam Nov 29

you gotta drain all the blood out of a carcass before you eat it

The amount of fuel required to launch them into the sun is more than is required to eject the from the solar system completely, it’s not very efficient.

Although putrid, they remain a valuable source of protein and nutrients. As a more carbon-efficient alternative, I suggest tying some waste stone around their feet and chucking them into the sea. Something in the depths will eat them.

We could use them as feed for hungry wild animals. I just don't want to be accused of poisoning wildlife.

Somecall_metim Nov 29

He doesn’t work that hard, so why the fuck should we?

UnderpantsWeevil Nov 29

We pretend to work

They pretend to pay us

“This is nothing. When I was young, I worked 80 hours a week”, Murthy probably

count_dongulus Nov 29

These are the little fuckwits that pretend waiting on a phone call back from someone counts as working time. Their “work” would consist of the company paying for their meals and outings to go play golf woth potential clients.

Oh, you want me to go play golf with this guy using the company card and then go for dinner and drinks? Do some soft sales, just having regular conversation? Sure, I’ll take that “work”. Man, it’s tough. Nobody works 80 hour weeks like me.

BarneyPiccolo Nov 29

Pointing and telling someone what to do, isn’t work.

He probably thinks he works 80 hour weeks because he is including schmoozing with clients and company paid lunches and dinners as “work”

He has his own private chef to make him food, he has maids to take care of his house(s), he has assistants to do all his errands, if he has kids he has nannies to take care of them. So in his backwards ass head he can easily “work” more than 70+ hours a week and doesn’t understand why us lowly peons can’t do the same.

gustofwind Nov 29

He should work himself to death alone and leave us with a better world

PattyMcB Nov 29

Good luck finding talent, dickhead

krooklochurm Nov 29

I am not an advocate of slavery generally speaking but I do think that it is a just and righteous thing to enslave someone like this and to use them for backbreaking labour for 20 hours per day.

Like. Make it pointless too. Dig this hole. Fill that hole. Dig it again.

Feed them stuff you find in dumpsters. Beat them if their hole digging is going to slow. Test cosmetics on them. Sell them to be used for sex.

That seems right to me.