This is how you do it people. I feel like I could have written this article, as it is extremely detailed as to all of the valid reasons why they would want to ban such content from being associated with Nature.
Every journalistic & creative outlet you follow should be publishing something like this…and if not, demand it.
And here's another one! Wow! It sure does seem like we *can* actually put the fucking genie back in the fucking bottle y'all.
https://www.halifaxexaminer.ca/morning-file/heres-the-halifax-examiners-ai-policy/
@jaredwhite
"The vague term ‘AI’ and the accompanying confusion is purposeful; it’s conflating quite useful computer tools with problematic and unethical generative processes in order to make it difficult to draw distinctions between the two. The tech industry is creating this confusion as PR, to promote investment into companies that primarily use generative AI programs, companies like OpenAI, the producer of ChatGPT."
OMG. I may have to subscribe, though I'm nowhere near Halifax.
I'm just over here scratching my head wondering wtf they think they mean by this: "The world is on the brink of an AI revolution."
@violetmadder I mean, I'm on the edge of taking up arms against the idiocy...
cc @jaredwhite
Not inappropriate, given that this "AI" as it is currently being designed and deployed, is a weapon.
That's what people don't get, when they keep scratching their heads over how it's supposed to make money. It's not supposed to make money. It's supposed to destroy communications and information, and the data centers are for crunching mass surveillance.
@violetmadder 💯. My coworkers are 100% in on it, which is aligned with a push we have for a business direction. In my personal life, the vibe is about 90% against it, with the 10% being ... uh ... not generally the stronger person in the pair programming configuration.
It seems like it's inevitable that people will adopt it, and like it's going to destroy a hell of a lot of what I hold dear, and I'm trying to process that and find a path forward.
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@danlyke @violetmadder Make them justify every statement they make.
"Our customers want this" -> how do you know your customers want this?
"This is where the industry is going" -> why do you say this is where it's going?
"The benefits outweigh the risks" -> so what are the risks and how have you weighed them against perceived benefits?
"If we don't do this, we'll be left behind" -> who is telling you you will be left behind?
"We haven't heard any complaints" -> but are you even listening?
@jaredwhite in our case, #1 is that our potential funders very much want this.
#2 is... I don't know how the economics stack up long-term, but I have found LLMs useful for not having to know, for instance, the details of Apache redirect syntax or other things I use infrequently.
#3 the willingness to discount risk is deeply embedded in startup culture.
#4 that our potential funders overlap heavily with LLM services vendors is an issue.
#5 no, they're not listening. Sigh.
@jaredwhite all of which leads to: I need to find a new job, but I'm so fucking disgusted with computing that I don't have any vision for work that'd light me up and excite me.
Everything has become extractive rather than actually bringing people value, and I don't see how to do the former when everyone's willing to pay for things via advertising and side channels.
So I'm super disheartened and just grinding it out here.
@danlyke @jaredwhite @violetmadder
💜
Paycheck work is better than none...
Use your 'off' time to try many things that could inspire your next you.
@danlyke @jaredwhite @violetmadder
I say that - but I dead stopped at about 40 pages of a book... and I have 3 others in various states of process... mind maps complete, basic format, that kind of thing...
Because I had second thoughts on if it is beneficial to me - when all those LLM makers believe they own the right to take your work, for use by them.
Figured if I don't continue - they cannot benefit.
@JohnJBurnsIII yah. I used to believe that alone I could create spectacular things, but I have so many of those that have gone nowhere that I know my future projects are going to be in a team. In the mean time, my house is getting some amazing hand-carved trim.
But I really want to find that team, in a world gone mad.
@danlyke @jaredwhite @violetmadder
RE: carved trim
That's sounds satisfying!
👍
@cmthiede @danlyke @jaredwhite
Look up the history of what the Luddites were really about, contrast that with how the term has been warped to mean something else, and it ALL starts to make a whooooooole lot more sense.
@[email protected] "Figure 1 shows the overall methodology. Informed consent was obtained from all participants involved in the study, and, where applicable, consent was obtained from legal guardians for minor participants as approved by the IRB." Wow. They didn't even LOOK at it. Not the "authors" and not Nature. No human involvement at all. #runctitional #fryrmblal #Fexcectorn #Totalbottl
@elduvelle Thanks for pointing that out, I usually double-check the dates on things before I share them and I missed it this time.
That being said, here is a general AI policy statement which seems fairly in line with the original article, other than it mentions "AI summaries" as a possible feature. Blargh.
https://www.nature.com/nature-portfolio/editorial-policies/ai
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