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comp_ed82@rogueren Y'all ought to take a gander at msfn.org 's forums. The complexity of the solutions the forum regulars take to keep their older Windows systems online and even somewhat secure approaches that of the average Arch/Gentoo user's customizations.
rtannerf@comp_ed82 @rogueren you just gotta change this obscure undocumented dword key under Microsoft/Windows/System/sys32/catacombs/deadcode/ in the HKLM hive to 0 and it fixes it
see aren't you glad Windows is easier than Linux??
Joakim Fors@joakimfors @rtannerf @rogueren Classic MacOS and its resource fork editors were funner than heck, too đ€Ș
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just a blÄhaj@rogueren sadly, nobody gives a shit about defaults being bullshit. because microsoft cannot be wrong, right? (!)
@rogueren also, the same applies to Edge.
Kevin RussellOur era explained, our choices shown, our bosses exposed, our problems defined.
This image (posted by https://mstdn.social/@stevelieber@mastodon.social) is AI and it's tech Bros now. All that enshittified commercial software.
The Cyberwitch@rogueren And next update they'll have to do it all over again =D
God, I hate playing GPO wack-a-mole at work
Marius@rogueren ok, I will bite ;)
I will happily switch to Linux as soon as installing print drivers is as easy as on Windows. And to be honest: Word and Excel far exceeds Libreoffice. So for now I will keep running Linux on servers and Windows on desktops :)
I will happily switch to Linux as soon as installing print drivers is as easy as on Windows. And to be honest: Word and Excel far exceeds Libreoffice. So for now I will keep running Linux on servers and Windows on desktops :)
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derptron@fere I've has LESS issues with printers on Linux thanks to the CUPS driver which works with basically every common consumer printer nowadays.
Office stuff I use OnlyOffice which is much better than LibreOffice IMO. Word is basically 1:1 but Excel is almost impossible to make 1:1 since desktop Excel uses its own language for advanced fuctions (Visual Code Basic) which not even the web version of excel uses, THAT uses a custom fork of javascript. So basically Excel is utterly fucked no matter what. (OnlyOffice uses normal vanilla javascript for its advanced scripting functions).
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Elena ``of Valhalla''@fere @rogueren what is this âinstalling print driversâ you are talking about?
I've just bought a new printer, I've connected it to the local network (not even to the computer), and the print dialog was showing it, with full supports for its various features, no installation required
(I'm not sure what would happen for scanners: the one I have is just a printer, and the scanner I have is pretty old (and does require installing a couple of packages from the distribution))
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VulcanTouristIt's not too complicated. It just doesn't have consistently reliable support for the software that I want to use. The majority of software targets the Windows platform, and until a Linux distro can manage to make it all run 100% of the time, I will keep using Windows. I don't like that state of affairs, but it's the reality.
@VulcanTourist then you will literally never use anything ever again no matyer how bad it gets. Not even Mac will run 100% of all programs despite having a MASSIVE marketshare vs Linux. You'd have to sacrifuce SOMETHING
I literally guess not.
A software developer favorited my original reply to you. You should consider that and your choices and why you make them, and whether they're truly in your best interest.
This is not a religious hill that I'm willing to die on.
David Scott Moyer@rogueren All I had to do was opt out. I don't even remember what I did, it was so simple.
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@farbel and Microsoft would have shoved AI literally everywhere they could. Notepad has AI. File explorer has AI. Looks like Regedit and even Cmd would get AI at this point, because why not milk users for their money and data?
Recall is but the beginning...
Recall is but the beginning...
@zstg If you actually had a Windows device, which I'm sure you don't (and that's fine), you would know that you can switch AI on or off in every application that has it. Google is another story. I am fucking sick of the top page of search results being AI. So far, I haven't dumped it, because it is so handy and I like the browser, but I may eventually.
@hellomiakoda @zstg it's adorable that you think ai is ai.
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@farbel @zstg @rogueren
4. it doesn't even matter how many installations there are. You are free to install it in any way, use it however you want and contribute. The associated platforms are widely supported and if you've got any problems or questions, there are people who will be glad to help you out, as long as you ask kindly
4. it doesn't even matter how many installations there are. You are free to install it in any way, use it however you want and contribute. The associated platforms are widely supported and if you've got any problems or questions, there are people who will be glad to help you out, as long as you ask kindly
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Darth Hideout đłïžâđ@rogueren regedit lol
Beko Pharm@darth_hideout @rogueren tbf I use regedit on Linux a lot too.
Usually in combination with WINEPREFIX đ€Ș
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JohnnieMac@rogueren Linux Mint + LibreOffice + Thunderbird Mail + a browser ( my choice is DuckDuckGo). Easier to set up than Win 11.
bluestarultor@rogueren Okay, I'll bite.
At least it works with every Windows machine. At least people post this stuff to others in their community. Windows users don't even know what "RTFM" means.
It's the same reason people stayed on Twitter or went to Bluesky: sometimes your choice is between shit and crap, but at least the shit is standardized and no one is gatekeeping it. Sometimes it's easier to live with standardized shit than be out of your depth and facing a lack of help. Like I've been asked IRL about installing Mint, asked Fedi, and was pointed to resources that would require a 3 hour drive to access. And Mint is supposed to be the easy replacement.
@bluestarultor
I had to laugh about this... Windows breaks with every other update, so much for "works on every machine". The only "Windows community" there is, is a group of investors. Regular users have no say at Microsoft; it's a company selling shit.
I'm sorry you had to experience some entitles douchebags that told you to rtfm or drive who knows where instead of pointing you to accessible online resources or IRC channels when you asked for help. better luck next time
@ki The difference here is I don't need "better luck next time" with Windows. If I have a problem, I can Google it and find an answer. Windows has forums and Stack Overflow. If I needed help installing it, I could get it, easily.
The people I asked for help installing Mint were privileged; they gave me the best resources they had for normies. The problem is people forget people live outside of major cities, so resources simply don't exist around here. I can look up how to install Mint, but I can't play telephone to support it for my friend.
And when it comes right down to it? I thought I would be funny getting frustrated when Copilot got turned back on in Visual Studio (which only happened once as of now) and submitted a bug report that marked it as making it harder to work. And you know what? A real human engineer had to review that and didn't even close it. It's still sitting out there and maybe it gave someone perspective or maybe someone just looks at it and giggles, but it wasn't simply shut down.
@bluestarultor
that's only because you're proficient with Windows. Once you're more comfortable with the Linux platform of your choice (or even with building your own system, which is easier done than you might expect), you'll be able to look up the answers for your problems just as well, if not better because you'll be more familiar with the internals of your system. Everything can be tuned to your needs and liking.
that's only because you're proficient with Windows. Once you're more comfortable with the Linux platform of your choice (or even with building your own system, which is easier done than you might expect), you'll be able to look up the answers for your problems just as well, if not better because you'll be more familiar with the internals of your system. Everything can be tuned to your needs and liking.
@bluestarultor
I'm well aware of Microsoft's support platforms and how tickets will be left open for a decade or longer. I have to deal with this a lot in my day job and I've hated it long before LLMs were a thing. If there's an issue in VS, I can't just fix it, I rely on an update and pray to these Trump-endorsing fascists Gates and Nadella that the next update won't break even more. That's my "better luck next time" experience with these MS shitheads
I'm well aware of Microsoft's support platforms and how tickets will be left open for a decade or longer. I have to deal with this a lot in my day job and I've hated it long before LLMs were a thing. If there's an issue in VS, I can't just fix it, I rely on an update and pray to these Trump-endorsing fascists Gates and Nadella that the next update won't break even more. That's my "better luck next time" experience with these MS shitheads
@bluestarultor
(disclaimer: by "shitheads", I don't mean the disillusioned developers at MS who are mostly trying to do their best)
(disclaimer: by "shitheads", I don't mean the disillusioned developers at MS who are mostly trying to do their best)
@ki Everyone is stuck with what they're stuck with. :J
At this point I might just point them to Xtra-PC instead because that has support behind it. And sure, it's paid, but I'd rather tell people they have paid support than go free and have to learn as I go. I can find resources for ME, but I can't leave everyone hanging if I don't have the energy to learn how to fix their stuff for them in the immediacy they need it.
mzf-bee@rogueren Well I realized windows was bad around 8.1, but boy oh boy, I am glad I ditched windows before 10 AND ESPECIALLY 11 were the norms.
lol, I got out at the last best time.
It would've probably been better to get out before then, but oh well.
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Clep Karb @ Home đĄI think the difference is that Linux makes it harder to get something while on windows it's harder to get **rid** of something.
Not only is the latter required less often but I also would guess that ignoring something you don't need is a lot easier for most users than to try and work around not being able to have something you do need 
@karb @rogueren
that's because ignorance is bliss.
and also because windows comes with WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much shit that you need to remove, to make it even tolerable.
Linux, on the other hand (generally speaking ofc) has just what's needed. Some even have nothing at the start (Arch and Gentoo), for you to add only what you want, however you want.
that's because ignorance is bliss.
and also because windows comes with WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much shit that you need to remove, to make it even tolerable.
Linux, on the other hand (generally speaking ofc) has just what's needed. Some even have nothing at the start (Arch and Gentoo), for you to add only what you want, however you want.
@karb @rogueren The biggest problem I've encountered with noobs is they google for some app find a random github with tar.gz files and they think they have to compile that, because of years of finding setup.exe to install stuff. I think this could be fixed by calling Synaptic (or its equivelant) AppStore and making a giant button on the default desktop.