As a reminder, the notion that people should be able to maintain "a clean, well-organized household" came from the 19th century Western "upper classes" where the wife was expected to stay home and do this full time - and this was used as a status symbol and status marker to distinguish the affluent from the working classes, where women almost always had to work in (poorly paid) jobs in order to keep the household budget afloat.

Therefore, this notion is not only #Sexism but also #ClassWarfare . Thus, when someone presents this kind of "lifestyle" as something you should aspire to (whether a tv show, an Influencer, or a glossy magazine), you should really contemplate what kind of political agenda they are trying to sell to you.

Now, if you _enjoy_ keeping a household in a good, clean order, more power to you! Everyone needs their passion projects, after all! But it should not be the _expected_ thing - particularly for people who are already overwhelmed by the demands this late-stage Capitalist hellscape places on us!

@juergen_hubert
This can certainly be argued, but I'm still not coming to your game nights unless you clean the bathroom regularly.

"Every evening before game nights" counts as "regularly"? 🥲

@juergen_hubert @mrundkvist

@wonka @mrundkvist @juergen_hubert how often would those game nights be? :D

@valhalla Haven't had any in this current man cave yet. But if visitors for any such game night found a sufficiently well cleaned bathroom, should they care when it was last cleaned beforehand?

@mrundkvist @juergen_hubert