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JoeBigelowWtf are you on about? They don’t get to decide what symbols belong to them. Ok 👌? 🐸 Fuck Nazi’s appropriating culture for themselves. Iirc the style of this comment indicates their membership in THE PACK AAYROOOO
blurbThen we should all start hanging swastikas around Auschwitz, shouldn’t we? Because that symbol just means “prosperity and good luck”.
Fascist apologia at its fucking finest. The wolf emoji is so obviously used in a nationalistic far-right meaning here with all the Turkish flags. Get a clue.
Feels like the gray wolf isn’t defined enough as a fascist symbol that there’s plenty of latitude for non-fascists to use it. Like if that account is known to use it that way it’s one thing, but otherwise it’s probably just a coincidence. The swastika is the most widely known symbol of hate these days but even now you can go see it on all kinds of temples in Asia, so if even that gets used in a non-nazi way these days surely the gray wolf isn’t only defined as a fascist symbol.
It’s not that that account is known to use it, it is that Turkish ultra-nationalists are known to use it. A lot.
Now I don’t really care about it being used in that tweet as it is obviously a joke, nor do I believe that everything that makes someone uncomfortable should be censored, but at least one should be honest to themselves to recognize that that symbol has a shitty meaning behind it with the context that is present here.
Grey wolves are considered as a historic symbol by Turks, similar to how a bald eagle is treated by americans or dragons to Chinese people. You can also see ultra-nationalist people of these countries use these symbols a lot, but it doesn’t change the meaning of these symbols to the majority of the country’s population.
Everything I don’t like is fascism
GladaedI don’t remember what the name of the logical fallacy where you conflate a small problem with a big one, but that’s what you’re doing. It’s a poor argument regardless of the context.
QuinnyCodediirc it’s the slippery slope fallacy?
Straw man.
That first sentence was directed at your “don’t let Nazis appropriate culture for themselves” statement. Because swastikas are just a nice little cultural symbol, and because they would fit in nicely with the concentration camps just like the grey wolves here with the Turkish flag.
Ygest WefsidAre not grey wolves a cultural symbol related to an old turkish tale? Does not look facist to me.
qevlarrI think it’s rather well known, but it doesn’t hurt to look it up if you don’t know… en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wolves_(organization)
Ah so this is about an organization named “grey wolves” known for their hostile worldviews, not the grey wolf from the historical tale about a she-wolf raising a human children? This could have been elaborated better.
jlow (he / him)I’m not letting some obscure group of fucking Turks claim a goddamn emoji as their own and stop using it myself. Same with Pepe, a 🐸 emoji, or 👌. They already have the swastika and a bunch of others from the ACTUAL Nazis, let them use those instead.
Yes they are. It’s a bunch of armchair political experts confidently talking out of their buttholes.
There IS a racist political movement, which is often referred as Grey Wolves abroad who think they own the symbol, but leaving an ancient cultural story to a bunch of fucks is the stupidest thing ever. This is the same level of stupid as saying Pepe the Frog is a white supremacist symbol.
You‘re getting downvoted but I agree with you. The joke in the image is funny, but the presence of these grey wolve emojis suggests affiliation with the Grey Wolves which are fascist. No debating that, I don’t get the other comments here.
No they are not right. I can’t know the political views of someone in some shitpost, but the original grey wolf symbolim comes from Turkic mythology, which is today being co-opted by racist fucks. It still gets used ironically to make fun of those fucks (just like posting Musk’s Nazi salute doesn’t automatically make you a nazi if you are making fun of him).
In addition, some people want to reclaim the symbolism, because it’s ancient mythology, why would we leave it to them, right?
It still gets used ironically to make fun of those fucks (just like posting Musk’s Nazi salute doesn’t automatically make you a nazi if you are making fun of him)
I agree with you there, but it’s hard to tell in a shitpost like this. So when in doubt rather avoid putting fascist ideology out there.
In addition, some people want to reclaim the symbolism, because it’s ancient mythology, why would we leave it to them, right?
The Nazis also didn’t invent the Swastika, it’s on a lot of temples in Asia. You don’t see me reclaiming it when I convert to Buddhism. Some symbols are just tainted. It sounds like giving in to far right trolls, but I’d rather spend my energy on worthwhile struggles.
It’s more like fascists trying to steal a symbol ngl.
Like highschoolers will have a phase where they use a wolf pfp online and talk about how they wished they were a horse archer for example.
Not necessarily politics.
My neighbor tried to raise some turkeys for Christmas. Those were bred to grow really quickly but his timing was off. They have to be slaughtered within a small window before they get too fat and their hearts give out. He had to do an early Christmas.
LenaIt’s pretty common for animals in the meat industry. A broiler chicken goes from hatching to supermarket in 6 weeks. That’s what’s being called efficiency these days.
A lot of people live this way too. They just keep working and getting fatter until they die of a heart attack at 60
Lmfao fair point
Don’t know about the small window thing. We had turkeys for a while, but to be fair it was more about domestic animals than food source.
Those things would get huge. I remember once some friends were coming to visit at night and seeing them on the roof got scared and ran off.
AsoFiafiaYou’re supposed to change their feed when they get to the desired size.
If don’t want to be eaten, why delicious?
Fuck plants! I’ll eat 'em all!
Plants don’t want to be eaten.
Plants don’t want to be eaten.
Plants don’t want to be eaten.
Plants don’t want to be eaten.
Plants don’t want to be eaten.
Plants don’t want to be eaten.
Plants don’t want to be eaten.
fun fact: we kill between 1 and 3 TRILLION animals a year for food and textiles.
Wait, that’s not a fun fact!
That’s it? I was hoping to see at least 10 trillion animals killed this year…
Not all animals are the same. Killing an endangered dolphin weighs much different to eating a mussel.
So you’d recommend only eating animals until they are endangered and then eating other animals until they are no longer? Is that what you want to express?
Or are you arguing that some animals are more sentient than others (e.g. mammals vs mussels), and we should switch to eating snails and mussels only, because of that?
Just saying their figure is completely irrelevant since not all are created equally.
We should probably substitute meat by eating more mollusks. They are rather eco friendly. And insects, probably.
A chicken is also much smaller than a cow.
A chicken is also much smaller than a cow.
Your penis is also much smaller than a cow, or a chicken. Should we all start eating your dick? Seems like size does matter indeed.
Well you should probably stop eating fish then, because trawling absolutely does kill dolphins. Its called by-catch.
Yeah, I used the royal we.