coyotino [he/him]Nov 20

Both Sides?

https://beehaw.org/post/23303546

Both Sides? - Beehaw

[alt text: a text-and-image tweet by @NotHoodlum on Twitter. The tweet shows a picture of U.S. Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene. The text of the tweet says: “Marjorie Taylor Greene has been hated by the left for years and never feared for her life. She’s been hated by the right for two days and had to hire security.”]

Show threadGreg ClarkeNov 20
Political violence is and always has been an issue in the US. Framing this as a partisan issue is disingenuous and unhelpful. I say this as a friendly northern neighbour. I’m worried about you friends
Show threadJoshsJunkDrawerNov 21
lol. lmao, even
Show threadGreg Clarke
What am I missing here? Not only is the tweet a easily fact checkable lie (Marjorie Taylor Greene had security before these recent threats against her) but saying that there isn’t political violence on both sides completely ignores the fact that trump was literally shot last year.
Nov 21 at 12:57pmWeb
Show threadshaiatanNov 22
The guy that “shot” him in 2024 was a Republican. Not sure how that makes this a “both sides” thing.
Show threadGreg ClarkeNov 22
This sounds like no true Scotsman logic. But irregardless, there are examples of folks who were associated with the Democratic Party conducting political violence, for instance Ryan Wesley Routh. I’m not arguing that there is the same level of political violence of both sides but framing political violence as a partisan issue is not helpful.
Show threadshaiatanNov 22

Dude. No.

The idiot that committed the political violence that you tried to hold up as a “BoTh SidEs” was on the same side as the idiot he tried to kill.

90+% of the political violence in this country has been committed by the same party.

Whatever you think trying to do is only helping the fascist idiots.

Show threadGreg ClarkeNov 22
That’s still a no true Scotsman argument. But sure, let’s pretend that the trump shooter was a hardcore republican, it doesn’t change the fact that political violence is still being perpetrated against individuals on both sides.
Show threadshaiatanNov 22
Informing you that a right wing idiot tried to assassinate ultra-right wing idiot isn’t a “no true scotsman” argument. You keep pointing to right-wing violence as evidence of left-wing violence.
Show threadGreg ClarkeNov 22

That’s a straw man argument. I am saying

political violence is still being perpetrated against individuals on both sides.

I’m arguing that this is a both sides issue from an attacked individuals perspective. Most political violence is the result of extremism and a lack of mental heath services. Framing the recent uptick as right or left won’t solve the core issue.

Show threadericjmoreyNov 23

Who is pushing the extremism and discouragement of community support for good mental health?

The core issue isn’t what you seem to think it is.