The Ramones.

If it’s been a while, I’ll listen to 5 tracks and be like “Yes, The Ramones!!!”

Then after a couple of tracks more I suddenly really need to put on something else.

God The Ramones are such a weak band. I’ve never understood people’s fanaticism.

That’s how I feel about Michael Jackson. Except he wasn’t a band. He was just 1 person who whispered like a shy little girl & flailed around onstage like a noodle and he kept grabbing his crotch and nobody asked him to grab his crotch.

All your personal issues with the man are yours and not in dispute. I think a big difference here is that MJ was a musical virtuoso, not just a singer and showman.

Was he virtuoso though? I feel like his best work was with Quincy Jones and Rod Temperton and without them he was just meh.

Yes, look into the man. He composed a shitload of his music.

Only two and one co-written on Off the Wall and three and one co-written on Thriller (although they are bangers). He did write most of Bad but anything outside of that is imo sub-par. I’m not denying he had a lot of talent but I think he’s far from a virtuoso.