BrikoXNov 19

New Zealand bans puberty blockers for young transgender people

https://lemmy.zip/post/53398823

New Zealand bans puberty blockers for young transgender people - Lemmy.zip

> Critics warn move could have devastating impact on lives and wellbeing of those affected Archived version: https://archive.is/20251119232521/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/19/new-zealand-bans-new-prescriptions-of-puberty-blockers-for-young-transgender-people [https://archive.is/20251119232521/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/19/new-zealand-bans-new-prescriptions-of-puberty-blockers-for-young-transgender-people] — Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.

Show threadGreddanNov 20
Kids are stupid and can’t consent. Doesn’t matter if it’s about receiving hormones, or jesus christ into their hearts.
Show threadskyeNov 20
kind of the reason why puberty blockers are only given after going through specialists that make sure the kid isn’t just being stupid
Show threadturdasNov 20

This ban, along with similar bans in other countries whose medical system isn’t run by Big Pharma, is being enacted because medical specialists raised concerns about the lack of evidence in support of puberty blockers, as well as their unknown risks. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Review

Trusting the experts is a two-way street; you still have to respect their expertise when they say something you disagree with.

Cass Review - Wikipedia

Show threadskye

the cass review is famously idiotic by now. also mentioning “big pharma” lol.

i will trust any expert that does research and makes sure their research is of quality. Maybe you should listen to your own advice and listen to the experts (actual ones) you disagree with

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Show threadturdasNov 20

the cass review is famously idiotic by now.

According to a minority of experts.

also mentioning “big pharma” lol.

Lack of medical regulation is very much a big pharma interest.

I’m not going to bother arguing with you about this because it is clearly an ideological issue for you where you personally consider the (as of yet) difficult to quantify benefits of this medication vastly more important than the numerous possible side effects of messing with the endocrine system of an immature body. Healthcare experts in pretty much every European country caution their use, all for the same reasons as those cited in the Cass report. As such a ban (well, in this case moratorium really) is clearly justifiable.

Show threadskyeNov 20

it’s clearly justifiable to have children grow up and kill themselves due to gender dysphoria and irreversible body changes instead of giving them the choice to delay the puberty, with an onset of manageable effects, you’re right!

your own wiki page reads all about how the cass report is questionable btw, from critics to research to everything. not just a “minority of experts”.

Show threadturdasNov 20

Do not put words in my mouth to present a false dilemma.

Naturally I hope this medication is found to be safe for this purpose after further study. However, these processes are stringent for a reason, because the possibility of it proving to be unsafe after being in widespread use for many years could have disastrous consequences on the health of a large number of people. The history of medicine is full of such cautionary tales.

Show threadskyeNov 20

The health consequences, as I said, is something we can deal with as we figure out safer methods for puberty blocking if that turns out to be the case.

I’d rather take puberty blockers being unsafe, find out better ways to deal with this problem later on, and deal with the health problems of existing patients over the alternative.

The alternative is having no patients to treat from puberty blocker issues, because the dysphoria got to them.

You could make the case for any medicine we use in mental healthcare: we don’t understand the risks and longterm effects, but it usually ends up that “adverse health effects way down the line” is preferable to “preventable suicide”.

People spout this same bullshit to be anti vaccines, anti fluorine in water, anti everything they don’t fully understand.

NOTHING. And I mean NOTHING in medicine is ever going to be 100% safe or won’t have side effects or always be understood.

But if you think banning life-saving medicine is better because “what if these people suffer from health issues later” idk what to say.