On a 2025 Tesla? Quit your bullshit rule.

https://lemmy.ml/post/39180919

Lefty people dont know about tesla models, so this wont be completely ineffective.
Lefties think he was always bad.
He was always bad. There are no good billionaires.
Well no, he wasn’t too terrible in the 19th century.
Technically correct, but not extremely useful, info
The best kind of correct.
Which is something that lefties are aware of, hence their comment.
I have a recipe for “guillotined billionaire” it might be to your tastes.
Yeah they all look the same to me, I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.
Then it also makes the “valid” stickers less trustworthy. Maybe time’s up and they all need to get sold to right wingers who don’t mind scratches.
True, they all look the same to me. But the other day, I saw someone with one of these stickers on a Cybertruck. THAT I know is bullshit
Elon went crazy in 2018 at the latest (the Thai cave rescue thing). Anybody who bought one of his cars after that knew what they were getting into.
Depends on, I personally know otherwise very political people who didn’t know about the Thai cave rescue controversy, while others still think he’s “just a bit upset that his child transitioned”, because they read “non-loony lefty sources”, that downplay his transphobia.
Ok, I’ll rephrase: Anybody who bought one of his cars after that only has themselves to blame for being ignorant and shouldn’t expect any absolution from me.
after 2022, twitter purchase. yea they should know better.

As long as Elon has been in the spotlight I’ve read about what an awful company Tesla is, how innovative SpaceX is but at the same time has horrible leadership to work for.

It was even before 2017 when I tried talking my brother out of buying one because of how clear it was they were cutting corners, hiding behind minimalism to excuse their lacking plastic covered interior.

I refuse to give anyone a pass for buying one, the writing has been on the wall since day one. Any Tesla owner is just another slave to the zeitgeist.

Honestly I feel sorry for anybody driving an older Tesla. I remember maybe 8, 9 years ago i had a long talk with some guy who owned the first (?) model, and I have to admit we shared the enthusiasm. Wasn’t many E-cars on that level back then.

I didn’t follow Musk in the media and I missed the Thai cave rescue & pedo calling disaster, so it took me a few months longer to start to realize what sort of person he really is. When exactly? Must’ve been before he bought Twitter. Sometime during Trump1.0.

And then it all came in like a retroactive flood. How he stole Tesla from the people who really started it, how delusional all his space projects are, how deeply corrupt/entwined he’s always been with the government…

But I don’t like those stickers, no matter how old the Tesla is.

Tesla is not the only option anymore.

If you’re serious you sell it. I know you can get other e-cars relatively cheaply nowadays, much cheaper than a new Tesla. So, what would the resell value be on any Tesla?

I plunked down $1000 sight-unseen in March 2016 for a first-run Model 3. I had driven a Model S (no way I could afford one) and was obsessed with Tesla. I finally received my 3 in early 2018 (I believe) and loved that car like a newborn baby. I was a rockstar in the area, people wanted to see it. Kids wowed when I drove by. The future of transport was looking bright and I was at the forefront.

Over time, Elon’s actions became more unhinged, and for a while I had the “separate the art from the artist” attitude. The Salute was the final straw. I had gotten more and more embarrassed by my car as it symbolized everything I hated, due simply to the actions of the insane CEO. When he helped elect Trump and became butt buddies with him, I knew my car’s days in my garage were limited. I sold it to Carvana for $18300 and bought a used Audi for the same price.

Man, I miss that car. It was everything I wanted. The FSD web of lies pissed me off, but the car was objectively great.

I have a reservation for a Rivian R2 now and I can’t wait to get it. I’m getting the same feeling all over again. So, what I guess I’m saying is, please RJ Scaringe don’t turn into a Nazi.

It’s not the same, but Rivian has been able to survive in a big way because of another asshole billionaire, Jeff Bezos. They were smart up mostly keep their branding off those Amazon vans, especially since most have been damaged by poorly trained drivers at this point.
Very true, but at least he doesn’t own or run the company. If you’re going to get a large loan to start a company, you’re gonna have to deal with an asshole billionaire.

I don’t get the “just sell it” crowd. Your solution is playing hot potato with a car. Like someone is still getting that car. Unless you manage to sell it to Tesla themselves I guess, but it’s my understanding that they only take them on trade-in.

So the choices you’re proposing are: Sell a car so it’s now Someone Else’s Problem, which isn’t a great look for you. Or scrap a perfectly usable car creating a bunch of waste, which isn’t a great look for you.

Just let people have their old cars, geez.

Each used car available potentially cannibalizes the sale of a new one.
Sure, absolutely, but then people shame people for having a used one too so it’s just hot potato.
Then ideally, that means no more new ones sold. Problem solved!
Eventually every Tesla will be owned by some right-wing POS and the shame will be deserved.

I remember maybe 8, 9 years ago

They’ll be fine if they had the cash to cough up for an EV then.

Unfortunate for them, but I don’t feel sorry. This is the reality of capitalism. The means of the production are not democratically controlled, it just so happened that Elon is particularly stupid.

it’s wild because even if you take elon out of it teslas still look like ass
Yeah, pretty dated styling these days.
Looks of a tesla are the last of my concerns personally…

imo they blend into traffic. i don’t even think they look bad. however, when you buy a new Tesla your money goes to a very dangerous nazi pos.

there are many ways one could come into the ownership of a vehicle but if you’re buying one new and charging at Tesla stations you’re financially supporting that scum and enabling his objectives.

flip-off your local cybertruck drivers and give the benefit of the doubt to the used teslas methinks

Buying a used one still helps the brand survive by maintaining its relevance.

Yea but I meant that even while taking out Elon and his bullshittery, the cars are still fucking trash.

The panel gaps are huge and weird, the paint is INCREDIBLY thin and sensitive, and don’t get me started on the hassle of an EV to someone like me who lives in an apartment. I also hate the entirety of the user interface and controls, I despisd touchscreens, and I despise all else including the door handles. The whole car is a huge no to me even ignoring the nazi.

Irregular panel gaps on a new car fresh out the factory is crazy work

Yeah, omg, how it’s this still a thing (better than the older models, but still).
The production value on not-that-cheap cars is bad, but folks just don’t care?
(It used to be that ppl through fancy or rugged cars were fancy bcs how they were built, not bcs someone in an ad told them so even after they’ve seen the car itl.)

It’s like the industry didn’t learn anything from Toyota’s infamous entry into the USA production market.

Try that trick on most US made cars, like a Mustang.
I have no respect for anyone who drives a Tesla at this point. I would have sold mine already on principle, if I had one, no matter how old it was.
I did have one pre-covid and I sold it shortly after he started going right-wing maga. The fun part was I sold it during the chip shortage. So I got more than I paid for it.
You’re not Koalagnocchi!

yes i am

wait fuck

What is supposed to be done with the cars that already exist? Tossing them in the junkyard or destroying them won’t make anything better. They can still be used for their purpose.

But don’t buy a new one.

Tossing them in the junkyard or destroying them won’t make anything better.

That’s where they end up immediately off warranty.

Which doesn’t make anything better.
I guess the nazis and nazi sympathisers can have them. Which is how I view anyone who’s still driving one.

I would have sold mine already on principle,

Well that really hurt the little nazi. He’s practically crying now

It’s not about hurting him, it’s about keeping my integrity.
I see that, but resale values have probably tanked, and not everyone has the disposable income to just switch cars whenever they want.
I’m sure the resale value is still high enough you could buy some old beater instead, I’d rather walk if I had to than be seen dead in a nazimobile.
Elon was always a crazy racist cunt. You never bought it before he went crazy. There was no before.

General public sentiment was very positive around 7-8yr ago. We know you’re very smart and special for disliking him before that, but that doesn’t change the fact that most people liked him still.

For my part I got off the train after those kids that got trapped in the cave.

police officers get thousands of upvote on reddit, how much for our boy in blue?
ACAB
calling a cab? thats so last century
Yeah calling the rescuer pedoguy was what did it for me, also yeah, get off your high horse.

after those kids that got trapped in the cave.

I hated him quite a bit before that, but no so much that the OG teslas were off my want list.

To this day, I kinda want to buy one of the used cheap fire sale ones and build a kit car out of the motors and batteries. There’s some good engineering here and there, just not as a whole car and not relying on that company for anything.

i have a specific car from the 80s i want to kit out with electric bullshit.
I’ve seen some people do a nice job on some electric VW bugs, kinda hard to hide the batteries though.
Yeah that’s the problem I’m looking at with mine. I would probably have to give up the t top storage to fit the battery
See that sounds like a fun time, if I could trust my self to not screw everything up. Get a classic car, re-kit as electric, enjoy style AND the benefits of electric.
OG Teslas were off my want list because even though Musk crowed about “open source,” they weren’t actually open in the way that mattered. AFAIK there’s DRM you have to work around if you want to use Tesla parts in a kit car, and it shouldn’t have to be that way.
Honestly I’d love to see someone jam a Teslas motors and batteries into like a 1990s jeep body. I feel like there’s a really stupid and really fun dune buggy style vehicle in that concept.