Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦Mozilla can't imagine a web without AI.
So I imagine there soon is going to be a web without Mozilla.
Why would anyone, at this point, use Firefox over Chrome?
Diehards like me are absolutely disgusted with the AI BS Mozilla is pushing down everyone's throats, to just mention one thing. We will find a fork, or eventually hopefully a new independent browser.
Anybody else doesn't give a fsck so why would they use a cheap Chrome knock-off Mozilla made Firefox into, if they can get the real deal for free?
Well done Mozilla. You outplayed yourself.
Mozilla is the browser vendor equivalent of centrist political parties.
> We can do whatever the fsck we want because who you gonna vote for, the actual far-right?
> Also, we need to try to out-far-right the far-right because that's where the voters are!
And then there's the inevitable surprised pikachu face when people just don't choose them.
Either because they vote for the actual far-right, not the cheap centrist knock-off; or because they refuse to make a choice between shit and crap.
If you're wondering what brought this fire and brimstone angrythread about, it's these two separate but related things:
https://transmom.love/@elilla/115564272417922503
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-window/
If you're wondering what the alternatives are, it's kinda grim, but my personal way forward will be:
- @librewolf for the short-to-mid term
- @servo once it matures enough to be usable (really rooting for this one!)
elilla&, famigerada travesti (@[email protected])
If you haven't cancelled #Mozilla yet, check out https://tabstack.ai/ yes that's a captcha-dodger scraper bot for "AIs". as a service. powered by the Mozilla Corporation. now you know how they're planning to make bank. oddly under-the-cover project, isn't it? not even showing in search engines. I wonder why :thaenkin:
Heiko@rysiek @librewolf I'm also keeping my fingers crossed for good progress on the servo front.
In the meantime, I just learned that Fedora doesn't currently package librewolf, so https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_IceCat is the most available side-stepping option in Fedora-land.
A brief web search didn't give me a clear impression how those two forks compare. Maybe someone here has insights?
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KelsonLibreWolf also has third-party repos for at least Fedora/yum/dnf and Debian/apt in addition to the Flatpak.
As for comparing the branches: IceCat is based on the ESR releases of Firefox, not the latest release, and it goes further in removing everything that might possibly touch a Mozilla server, including the add-ons catalog. (You can still download an extension manually and install it, at least!)
When I tried both out earlier this year I decided IceCat was overkill, while LibreWolf was better balanced and more up-to-date. YMMV, of course!
